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57. Stolen valor is bullshit, but its a bullshit thing to waste time and energy on

Fri May 22, 2015, 09:24 PM

May 2015

dude if HALF the fucking 'stolen valor' vids and comments were about a 22% suicide rate, homelessness sexual assault and harrassment - we would actually make progress on those fronts. Stolen valor isnt about real soldiers. Then who is it for? For the people - again usually not veterans! - making a big deal about it. Fuck'em. Our troops need, and actually deserve this attention and effort.

So is that shithead who wears an Eagle Globe Anchor on his hardhat at work stolen valor? I asked him why do you wear that. Oh, my cousin/aunt/uncle gave it to me. I stared right at him and replied 'you wear that because you want people to think you were in the marines'

yeah. By the end of the week it had 'fallen / got knocked off'. Most of the dudes out there wearing ACU pants at work and around town want you to think they were in the Army. Stolen Valor?

How bout this dude at work that just couldnt get over me being his boss. 'you dont know what I did in the military, I dont talk about it'

NEVERMIND I'd already seen his background check and resume'!

Stolen Valor?

People DONT CARE about anyone dressing like us. They dont even know what the shit on our uniform means. But this "stolen valor' bullshit makes them feel good cause they can make a facebook page(america!) and post a tough guy quote (nevermind they coundt find the time to serve themselves!)

To the OP - I dig from where you are coming. But go ahead and wear some jacked up uniform, maybe cheat some giant corporation out of a few (and I mean 10% tops) bucks. Big deal, compared to what weighs heavy on us this weekend right?!

I challenge everyone in this thread to turn it off. Who cares about stolen valor. Its even a stupid name to begin with. Turn it back on for something worthwhile - PTSD, Suicide awareness and prevention. SHARP. Soemthing that puts attention back on the TROOPS.

I have my own list of names to remember this weekend. Combat, suicide accidental and natural. I was in Iraq in 2003 when it was absolutely wild and crazy. Beer and reflection is on the menu. Guess how much time Im giving to stolen valor? not a fucking second.

SGT P
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Recommended! Cooley Hurd May 2015 #5

Your point is excellent. TNNurse May 2015 #7

Amen! LoisB May 2015 #53

A D-Day veteran taught me the same thing. Wilms May 2015 #8

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Karma 7962 May 2015 #62

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K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #49

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