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R B Garr

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49. OMG, how ridiculous. Now the NFL is out to get the Patriots?? LOL

Sat May 23, 2015, 08:25 AM

May 2015

You're not going to like this. Kraft had a friend's company perform the "science", so that's why Kraft pulled out of the "appeal" -- because of the obvious shady looking relationship and how that would completely undermine their credibility.

"...as well as revelations that the scientist who conducted the research was co-founder of a pharmaceutical company Kraft had invested in."
Read more at http://www.steelersgab.com/2015/05/19/patriots-robert-kraft-seeks-to-end-rhetoric-over-deflategate-scandal/#14m4V16to0EJE055.99

All Brady had to do was cooperate. He could have had his electronic communications reviewed for only those items responsive to the report. That's it. Only what was responsive to the report. It's even been reported that Brady himself could have gone through the phone with his agent. END OF STORY. Cooperate with what was responsive to the report. That's it. Done. But he didn't want to do that.

Seriously, it's ridiculous to keep insisting the Patriots haven't been caught cheating. Just admit to it and move on. No wonder they are so ridiculed. I never paid that much attention to it before, but now I see why they are so laughed at.

If it makes you feel any better, I know you can just accept they've gotten a comeuppance and move on. We were big fans of USC when they were hit with sanctions by the NCAA for things that weren't really properly reported, mostly to do with Reggie Bush's parents who lived 150 miles away from campus and players supposedly having access to agents. The sanctions were so stiff because the USC admin failed to cooperate as fully as they should have. But you don't see people saying USC had every right to cheat and get away with it like some arrogant elitists who are somehow special above other teams. It was accepted and then dealt with.

Just accept that the Patriots got caught cheating. They've gotten away with it for years, and they got caught again. Accept this and move on. Very simple!

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Robert Kraft-Patriots won't appeal ruling [View all] DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 OP

Wonder if that includes Brady... trumad May 2015 #1

I don't think it affects Brady... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #2

construed--- trumad May 2015 #3

He didn't look very happy at his short presser but who would be? /NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #4

This really is a bit of a stunner.... trumad May 2015 #6

Wait until Goodell finds his wallet is missing. TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #10

Yes, this does sound exactly right. Kraft thought they could jack the NFL R B Garr May 2015 #34

For such an allegedly well-run organization they sure handled this badly brush May 2015 #56

Yep, Brady is officially under the bus. nt brush May 2015 #55

Providing the Brady suspension is OFF the table, I suspect. MADem May 2015 #5

What deal DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #7

Ouch. trumad May 2015 #9

"That doesn’t pertain to Tom Brady’s four-game suspension." MADem May 2015 #14

All Tom had to do was cooperate with the prior investigation, but he didn't. R B Garr May 2015 #32

Yes, I'd definitely give my personal cell phone to my employer if they asked. bluedigger May 2015 #35

Lame, because that's not what was required. All he had to do was R B Garr May 2015 #36

And let my agent find out I'm looking for a new agent? bluedigger May 2015 #37

Laughable, because if Tom had issues with his agent, then he would have R B Garr May 2015 #38

There is no 5th Amendment protection in civil litigation DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #58

Like I keep saying, Time Will Tell. MADem May 2015 #39

Ahhh . . . it was a million dollar fine not a billion dollar one. nt brush May 2015 #57

$1,000,000.00 fine =one million dollars DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #59

Oops, you're right. The two extra zeros at the end threw me off. nt brush May 2015 #60

Let's just split the difference./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #61

So you know that Brady suspension is off the table? trumad May 2015 #8

Brady has a lawyer and he's moving forward with his action. MADem May 2015 #11

Love the diminished argument--- trumad May 2015 #12

Not to that team, it isn't. MADem May 2015 #17

Like I said...the diminished argument. trumad May 2015 #28

I've never been to a game and I rarely watch them. I could hardly be called a fan. MADem May 2015 #29

You didn't answer my question above. trumad May 2015 #30

I honestly don't know. I know that they cherry-picked the conversations, and they used MADem May 2015 #31

Brady better be careful lest he gets Clintoned DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #13

Like I said, time will tell. MADem May 2015 #15

Given everything that is in the public record... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16

He has hired a superb lawyer with whom he has worked previously on player dispute matters. MADem May 2015 #18

If I were Brady, I'd just take the four games. yeoman6987 May 2015 #80

Robert Kraft is a piece of shit used car salesman. lovemydog May 2015 #19

That's a bit harsh... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20

I just thought I'd take the opportunity lovemydog May 2015 #21

I don't believe he had personal knowledge of Spy and Deflategate. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #23

As a fan of any team playing against the Patriots, lovemydog May 2015 #24

LOL DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #25

Squirrel! n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #22

Odd. They have even more of a case than Brady against this horseshit. PeteSelman May 2015 #26

Do they still have to give up the Super Bowl trophy? underpants May 2015 #27

The cheating is definitely worth it. The Pats never won a Super Bowl R B Garr May 2015 #33

Bitter, bitter tears, there! MADem May 2015 #40

LMAO, or it could be bitter tears for the cheaters who have been R B Garr May 2015 #41

I don't think you're laughing at all--it's obvious that you are furious at these turns of events. MADem May 2015 #42

Actually I just copied your silly smiley, and I don't even have a pro team R B Garr May 2015 #44

If you read the thread you'd learn my POV on the game. MADem May 2015 #45

Actually, all I've said is Brady could have ended this by cooperating, R B Garr May 2015 #46

I think once they lied about how accessible the ball boy was (and they did lie about that) MADem May 2015 #48

OMG, how ridiculous. Now the NFL is out to get the Patriots?? LOL R B Garr May 2015 #49

Can you explain this to me. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #50

I'm sure the Brady Bunch is doing whatever they can to keep R B Garr May 2015 #51

If they appeal it to a federal court I would assume he would have to answer this question under oath DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #52

Yes, I think you're absolutely right. R B Garr May 2015 #53

It reminds me of the Paula Jones Case that led to Clinton's impeachment. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #54

"Tom Brady should just let this go away lest he perjure himself" Yes, R B Garr May 2015 #62

I am not the one saying it. Read the papers. MADem May 2015 #63

No, you are sounding aggrieved. It's laughable that this all a hatchet job. R B Garr May 2015 #64

You are repeatedly trying to ascribe your emotions to me! MADem May 2015 #65

lol, mostly what I've said is all in newspapers and sports websites R B Garr May 2015 #66

In the comments section--written by you, I presume! MADem May 2015 #67

Yeah, this is a perfect example of your manipulations. R B Garr May 2015 #68

Now I'm "manipulating...?" MADem May 2015 #69

Lame. Hey, maybe you can find a stupid picture to fit the word, "lame" R B Garr May 2015 #70

No, and I'm not going to Google, either--I've made my views clear. MADem May 2015 #71

Again. I just posted links to actual articles about Gooddell not recusing himself R B Garr May 2015 #72

No, that's not 'just' what you did--anyone reading this thread can see what you've said, here. MADem May 2015 #73

LMAO! Now I'm furious. In your dreams. R B Garr May 2015 #74

There ya go again, goading, baiting, and wailing! MADem May 2015 #75

LOL, now *my* emotions are "close to the surface"... R B Garr May 2015 #76

Not just now--throughout this exchange! They're your very own emotional words! Own them! MADem May 2015 #78

In your dreams. And now with more stupid pictures. R B Garr May 2015 #79

Ooooh, touchy, touchy, now! Anger! The "stupid" word! MADem May 2015 #82

Here's your post #40 where you started getting emotional: R B Garr May 2015 #83

Nooooo....those weren't MY bitter tears! They were yours! MADem May 2015 #84

I copied what you wrote, which was about emotions. Tears even. R B Garr May 2015 #85

Yes--your emotions. Your tears! MADem May 2015 #86

They were your words about emotions. They came through you, R B Garr May 2015 #87

Yes--YOUR emotions, angst, agita and anger. That "came through you." I just noticed it. MADem May 2015 #88

My posts had excerpts from actual articles about the actual situation. R B Garr May 2015 #89

Yeah...but you didn't read the article. You counted on the headline, and it let you down! MADem May 2015 #91

Nope, the excerpt matched. As did the headline. Here you go again: R B Garr May 2015 #92

You can go look at the quote I provided to you before in post 81, again. MADem May 2015 #93

You're the one who made this personal playing clueless about R B Garr May 2015 #94

Post 81! Do give it a read!! MADem May 2015 #95

BostonHerald: "bitter feelings" LMAO. R B Garr May 2015 #96

I'm going to keep sending you back to post 81, there, sport! MADem May 2015 #97

Uh huh. There wasn't any reason for you to kick this thread again R B Garr May 2015 #98

TLDR, Post 81!!! MADem May 2015 #99

Awww. so much bitter in your world. Look again: R B Garr May 2015 #100

TLDR, Post 81!!! MADem May 2015 #101

Awww, so much bitter in your world, and the BostonHerald confirms it: R B Garr May 2015 #102

LMAO, I see where you're hung up on "bitter" From BostonHerald: R B Garr May 2015 #90

Report: Roger Goodell Rejects Request To Recuse Himself From Tom Brady's Appeal R B Garr May 2015 #77

And he'll end up in court. What's your point? MADem May 2015 #81

The Broncos are the true Super Bowl champs panader0 May 2015 #43

A deal was made... Whiskeytide May 2015 #47

As a Pats fan, albeit not a rabid one MannyGoldstein May 2015 #103

Brady is still appealing Gothmog May 2015 #104