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In reply to the discussion: Why We Need to Take Sy Hersh’s bin Laden Bombshell Seriously [View all]Maedhros
(10,007 posts)53. It holds up better that you think.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/magazine/the-detail-in-seymour-hershs-bin-laden-story-that-rings-true.html?_r=0
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pakistanis-knew-where-bin-laden-was-say-us-sources-n357306
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/11/former-professor-reported-basics-hershs-bin-laden-story-2011-seemingly-different-sources/
R.J. Hillhouse, a former professor, Fulbright fellow and novelist whose writing on intelligence and military outsourcing has appeared in the Washington Post and New York Times, made the same main assertions in 2011 about the death of Osama bin Laden as Seymour Hershs new story in the London Review of Books apparently based on different sources than those used by Hersh.
On this count, my own reporting tracks with Hershs. Beginning in 2001, I spent nearly 12 years covering Pakistan and Afghanistan for The Times. (In his article, Hersh cites an article I wrote for The Times Magazine last year, an excerpt from a book drawn from this reporting.) The story of the Pakistani informer was circulating in the rumor mill within days of the Abbottabad raid, but at the time, no one could or would corroborate the claim. Such is the difficulty of reporting on covert operations and intelligence matters; there are no official documents to draw on, few officials who will talk and few ways to check the details they give you when they do.
Hersh appears to have succeeded in getting both American and Pakistani sources to corroborate it. His sources remain anonymous, but other outlets such as NBC News have since come forward with similar accounts. Finally, the Pakistani daily newspaper The News reported Tuesday that Pakistani intelligence officials have conceded that it was indeed a walk-in who provided the information on Bin Laden. The newspaper names the officer as Brigadier Usman Khalid; the reporter is sufficiently well connected that he should be taken seriously.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pakistanis-knew-where-bin-laden-was-say-us-sources-n357306
Intelligence sources tell NBC News that in the year before the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden, a retired Pakistani military intelligence officer helped the CIA track him down.
While the Pakistani intelligence asset provided vital information in the hunt for bin Laden, he did not provide the location of the al Qaeda leader's Abottabad, Pakistan compound, sources said.
Three sources also said that some officials in the Pakistani government knew where bin Laden was hiding all along.
While the Pakistani intelligence asset provided vital information in the hunt for bin Laden, he did not provide the location of the al Qaeda leader's Abottabad, Pakistan compound, sources said.
Three sources also said that some officials in the Pakistani government knew where bin Laden was hiding all along.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/11/former-professor-reported-basics-hershs-bin-laden-story-2011-seemingly-different-sources/
R.J. Hillhouse, a former professor, Fulbright fellow and novelist whose writing on intelligence and military outsourcing has appeared in the Washington Post and New York Times, made the same main assertions in 2011 about the death of Osama bin Laden as Seymour Hershs new story in the London Review of Books apparently based on different sources than those used by Hersh.
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Sorry, I'm only talking about Hersh, whose career seems to be paralleling Bernstein's.
randome
May 2015
#25
I like Hersh and have always admired his journalism but in this case, I don't think he published
OregonBlue
May 2015
#38
The only reason the Nation wants to take it seriously is it could potentially hurt Clinton
wyldwolf
May 2015
#9
Though Hersh may have gotten a sentence right does not make his story correct.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#27
Unfortunately, the authoritarians will bow to whatever the Leader Figure says.
Maedhros
May 2015
#56
As those on the ends of the teeter totter glare at each other, the crooks get away with the cash.
Octafish
May 2015
#57