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MannyGoldstein

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53. What percentage rebelled?

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #50)

Sat May 23, 2015, 02:32 PM

May 2015

Who were they, specifically?

Would they have overthrown Gaddafi without our help?

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Gaddafi must surrender power now, says Hillary Clinton [View all] Evergreen Emerald May 2015 OP

No tears for Gaddafi Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #1

How about some tears for the rest of Libya, now that we've thrown it into chaos and misery? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #17

Two different issues still_one May 2015 #26

It is all part on the same. He is out with nothing to replace and now a huge mess. nt Mojorabbit May 2015 #134

Yep MaggieD May 2015 #21

Yes. Spme will just say anything. hrmjustin May 2015 #27

good god but your op headline is inappropriate. I understand Gaddafi was brutal dictator cali May 2015 #2

Good God your post is inappropriate. Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #4

have fun rejoicing. It. Is. No. Better. It. Is. Worse. cali May 2015 #8

Seriously Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #13

Yes - think about all the citizens of Libya who have been subjected to the misery Maedhros May 2015 #19

food fight!!!!!!!! still_one May 2015 #28

Thanks, I just appreciate EE changing that appalling op title. cali May 2015 #32

Actually I changed it before your post Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #75

Actually, it was still the bible quote when I posted first in your thread cali May 2015 #119

Right back atcha Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #125

I don't think for a minute they were "gleeful"... Agschmid May 2015 #42

did you see the original op title? cali May 2015 #65

No, and I have he hardest time looking at the permalink on my phone. Agschmid May 2015 #67

+1000 indeed. eom Purveyor May 2015 #62

I heard several other public servants say the same thing about Iraq and Saddam. I believe they were Exilednight May 2015 #74

And the Iraqis? 1939 May 2015 #115

And the results speak for themselves MannyGoldstein May 2015 #3

Gaddafi was not the answer! Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #5

Gaddafi's overthrow is not connected with Libya becoming MannyGoldstein May 2015 #6

As opposed to the wonderful tourist destination it was under Qaddafi. JaneyVee May 2015 #16

Let's start by recognizing that you've moved the goalposts MannyGoldstein May 2015 #18

Are you saying Gaddafi was a good leader? hrmjustin May 2015 #35

Did I write that? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #38

I am asking you to clarrify. hrmjustin May 2015 #39

I don't shed any tears for Gaddafi, either MannyGoldstein May 2015 #44

Why do you think the people rebelled? hrmjustin May 2015 #50

What percentage rebelled? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #53

They were in the process of rebelling when we decided to aid them. hrmjustin May 2015 #56

The 'people' didn't rebel. polly7 May 2015 #54

lol oh please. The people rebelled. hrmjustin May 2015 #57

For the love of god, educate yourself a bit. polly7 May 2015 #58

Your link is bad and your first video says washington times. hrmjustin May 2015 #72

Sorry you're so scared of a video, it's a timeline of the horror and compilation of hundreds of NEWS polly7 May 2015 #77

I don't believe rw material. it is like watching RT. hrmjustin May 2015 #79

That's rich! Lmao. polly7 May 2015 #81

Al Jazeera is a great news source. hrmjustin May 2015 #83

Don't watch the video, I couldn't care less! Good grief, what a show. nt. polly7 May 2015 #84

I agree, what a show. hrmjustin May 2015 #85

Yeah, eh? nt. polly7 May 2015 #86

You can go on if you like. hrmjustin May 2015 #87

You too! nt. polly7 May 2015 #88

You are way out of your depth here.... truebrit71 May 2015 #90

I guess i am just too stupid to keep up. hrmjustin May 2015 #92

Stupid? I didn't say that, you did.... truebrit71 May 2015 #95

I am well aware of the current situation. hrmjustin May 2015 #96

And you're fine with it? truebrit71 May 2015 #97

No it is very tragic. hrmjustin May 2015 #98

And it could have been avoided, yes? truebrit71 May 2015 #99

it might have happened whether we helped or not. hrmjustin May 2015 #100

Or we could have simply just not bombed the fuck out of them.... truebrit71 May 2015 #101

Yes. If we chose that the rebels would likely have been killed and Gaddafi left in charge. hrmjustin May 2015 #102

And those people escaping the current clusterfuck.. truebrit71 May 2015 #104

Maybe or maybe not. hrmjustin May 2015 #105

But we do know that bombing the shit out of them created this current mess, yes? truebrit71 May 2015 #106

After your rude responses to me in the other thread we are done. hrmjustin May 2015 #107

So that's it? truebrit71 May 2015 #108

Next time be polite. hrmjustin May 2015 #109

Oh trust me, that's highly unlikely.... truebrit71 May 2015 #110

Yes that is obvious. hrmjustin May 2015 #111

As are you. truebrit71 May 2015 #114

Back at you too. hrmjustin May 2015 #116

Well when you run out of any space for a logical argument you can always pull that one I guess GummyBearz May 2015 #143

You are calling me names. hrmjustin May 2015 #144

Really? GummyBearz May 2015 #145

Hillary personality cultists hrmjustin May 2015 #146

I think *you* interpretted it wrong GummyBearz May 2015 #147

You have a lovely night. hrmjustin May 2015 #148

None of us are saying that. What we are saying is that we have not made it much better by jwirr May 2015 #63

But the people were in the process of rebelling. hrmjustin May 2015 #64

I do not want us to stop them. I just do not want to second quess them and do it for them. That jwirr May 2015 #70

I respect your view. hrmjustin May 2015 #71

Thank you. jwirr May 2015 #76

You're welcome! hrmjustin May 2015 #78

They were rebelling in Bahrain, too, but we helped crush them to a paste Scootaloo May 2015 #91

Better than the people running the joint now, at least Scootaloo May 2015 #89

Many argue Haiti was worse off after its Revolution of 1791 BainsBane May 2015 #36

When did we start talking about Haiti? nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #41

It's a historical anaology BainsBane May 2015 #49

The 'Popular Uprising' LIE that's been debunked time after time? polly7 May 2015 #51

It's a good one, and you will not get a direct answer treestar May 2015 #126

It's the whole "But the trains ran on time" argument. n/t EX500rider May 2015 #80

Yeah, ommm.....total bullshit. Not surprising since your source is counterpunch/global okaawhatever May 2015 #120

I clicked on your first link, I see nothing about Libya MannyGoldstein May 2015 #121

The Libyan poverty number is an estimate from the United Nations. Libya didn't provide data okaawhatever May 2015 #122

Is that estimate in the first link you provided? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #123

Wtf? Tourist destination??? polly7 May 2015 #48

Libya WAS a tourist destination. I was there. mainer May 2015 #132

I'm sorry Mainer. polly7 May 2015 #136

Maybe we don't get to say who runs every country in the world. world wide wally May 2015 #12

Do you know anything about Libya under Gaddafi? Octafish May 2015 #14

Never mind that he was a rapist, a pedophile and a murderer. leftofcool May 2015 #29

Per PNAC, yes. And how many thousands have drowned trying to escape the terror in the new Libya? Octafish May 2015 #40

Does that mean you don't think a people have a right BainsBane May 2015 #37

Yeah, they like to skip the main course and go right to dessert, which is R B Garr May 2015 #82

Exactly BainsBane May 2015 #94

No, that's what you said. I said Gaddafi used the oil revenues to make life better for Libyans... Octafish May 2015 #124

So he was a benign dictator? treestar May 2015 #133

I know he wasn't racist. He is an example of a person of color the USA has found easy to kill. Octafish May 2015 #149

That is true BainsBane May 2015 #139

No, it wasn't a popular uprising. A lie that's been completely debunked and polly7 May 2015 #142

Lots and lots of lies, but I guess that's what it took polly7 May 2015 #7

Excellent post! Octafish May 2015 #15

Thanks for the well-researched compilation. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #22

+1 Go Vols May 2015 #117

Stop it! Moammar was a hero! wyldwolf May 2015 #9

Soon we'll have our youngest and brightest young men and women (aka boots) vacationing in Syria and libdem4life May 2015 #10

We all hated Bush. Starry Messenger May 2015 #11

I think this thread is to counter a thread which showed Hillary smiling when Gadaffi(sic) met his still_one May 2015 #30

Oh, that makes more sense. Starry Messenger May 2015 #47

Don't be surprised there will be a lot more threads on both sides still_one May 2015 #103

Jingoism. Not just for Republicans anymore. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #20

Can't what for the extremists MaggieD May 2015 #23

Some seemed to show sympathy for poor little OBL after the Hersh story, which gave them an excuse to still_one May 2015 #31

Yep MaggieD May 2015 #46

Nobody, but nobody here is saying anything of the sort. cali May 2015 #33

Sure they are... MaggieD May 2015 #45

even for you, that's a remarkable leap of logic. cali May 2015 #60

It's repugnant to me... MaggieD May 2015 #66

I have never said or indicated anything like that. cali May 2015 #69

I feel the same about you MaggieD May 2015 #73

I don't lie. cali May 2015 #113

Sure you do MaggieD May 2015 #131

NO, she doesn't. nt. polly7 May 2015 #137

What did post 2 mean then? treestar May 2015 #128

I've seen a great deal of suggestion that things are much worse treestar May 2015 #127

can't wait for the cultists to tell us how this is completely different than Iraq Doctor_J May 2015 #55

Which extremists would those be? Anyone that doesn't agree with your truebrit71 May 2015 #112

More war. Yah. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #24

That's some righteous Bible thumping. GeorgeGist May 2015 #25

Hillary laughed damn it! Damn her, Damn her! hrmjustin May 2015 #34

Libya now open for ISIS, Africa destabilized and flooded with guns, new immigration crisis... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #43

The BOG and Hillarians are indistinguishable from the Bushies at this point Doctor_J May 2015 #52

+1 AtomicKitten May 2015 #61

Right? truebrit71 May 2015 #93

Um, the Republicans would have found an excuse to go to war there? treestar May 2015 #129

My horror state was better than your horror state! workinclasszero May 2015 #59

Now you're talking treestar May 2015 #130

Yup, while our government continues to kiss the hands of the brutal Saudis AZ Progressive May 2015 #68

It was sad when Gaddafi was not taken out in the 80's. Thinkingabout May 2015 #118

How many of you have been in Libya? I have. mainer May 2015 #135

Fantastic post. I'm so glad you got to experience that. polly7 May 2015 #138

Horror state! Gaddafi tried to start "one laptop per child"! mainer May 2015 #140

We had restored diplomatic relations, too mainer May 2015 #141