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cali

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14. I didn't claim they were the same. I claimed there are parallels.
Sat May 23, 2015, 06:16 PM
May 2015

And let's state that SOME Libyans were involved in an uprisiing against Gaddafi. You seem to think you can speak for Libyans. You cannot. I didn't speak for anyone- I presented facts. There's a lot of conflicting information on the uprising against Gaddafi- something you ever so conveniently erase. And it is not a matter of what I "think" about their QUALITY of life- as measured by the U.N. and WHO; those are facts that are germane when measured against quality of life statistics today.

Your arrogance in deliberately misstating facts is pronounced. Saddam was certainly still using force and the threat of force to oppress Iraqis. Gad, your propensity for revisionist history is shameful.

The U.S. invasion of Iraq was a U.S. led coalition. And as I'm sure you know, the U.S. is the dominant force within NATO.

You are right about the fact that no ground troops were in Libya.

I certainly think people have the right to fight an oppressive regime. I don't think that intervention is always the right thing to do. Your post reads as if you supported the NATO bombing though you claim to have opposed it. Perhaps you did and your post is intended to defend President Obama and/or Hillary.

I'll answer one of your final questions as I think it's pertinent: I think the world could have stopped the Rwanda genocide before it ever started. If you haven't, read General Romeo Dallaire's account of the Rwandan genocide, "Shake Hands with the Devil".





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Ah ... the apples to rocks comparison. JoePhilly May 2015 #1
+ 1,000,000,000,000 eom MohRokTah May 2015 #22
not unless you can cogently explain why the comparison isn't apt. cali May 2015 #2
You are 100% correct malaise May 2015 #3
thanks Malaise cali May 2015 #4
There are many similarities, but there are also differences malaise May 2015 #5
thanks. I'd add two more words cali May 2015 #6
And Naomi Klein would agree malaise May 2015 #7
There are several differences BainsBane May 2015 #8
No, it was not a popular uprising. That's been debunked many, many times. nt. polly7 May 2015 #9
Thank you for all the info on another OP. sadoldgirl May 2015 #13
You're very welcome. polly7 May 2015 #17
I didn't claim they were the same. I claimed there are parallels. cali May 2015 #14
I didn't speak for anyone BainsBane May 2015 #20
Then stop telling people that they are unscrupulous in so many words for not caring the boston bean May 2015 #10
Stop putting words in my mouth, bean. It's less than honest.l cali May 2015 #15
helping start the chaos in Syria, was a continuation of intervention in Libya quadrature May 2015 #11
Doesn't dignify a response. joshcryer May 2015 #12
Yeah it's basically the same thing as the invasion of Iraq. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #16
Logically, I supported action in Libya because a Civil War had broken out... brooklynite May 2015 #18
Please, tell us about democracy. PETRUS May 2015 #25
A murderous dictator is dead at the hands of his own people 4now May 2015 #19
People seem to romanticize the role of the US and our Cal Carpenter May 2015 #21
. MohRokTah May 2015 #23
these Whiz Kids 1. don't ever plan past 6 months and 2. see any group as their employees MisterP May 2015 #24
TOTALLY different. Night and day. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #26
Umm, what? Libya was already in civil war when the NATO bombing occurred. DanTex May 2015 #27
Exactly MaggieD May 2015 #28
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