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brooklynite

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77. I was an ex-pat in the Philippines when Marcos declared martial law...

Sat May 23, 2015, 06:42 PM

May 2015

One day, the TV stations were off the air, the newspapers weren't being printed and there were military checkpoints on the major roads.

Because we were foreigners, we were able to leave at any time so we stayed (my father was the Asian head of Singer Sewing Machine). But we got a nice perspective on arbitrary arrest, seizure of businesses, suppression of press freedom, and elimination of representative democracy "in the interest of national security".

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Poll: Because Gaddafi was a bad man, it was OK for the West to help overthrow him? [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2015 OP

Was it right for his people to rebel against him? hrmjustin May 2015 #1

That sounds like a great idea for another poll MannyGoldstein May 2015 #2

This is as good a place as any. hrmjustin May 2015 #6

No. Actually it isn't. truebrit71 May 2015 #25

I can ask here thank you. hrmjustin May 2015 #27

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #29

Who made you the boss of gd? hrmjustin May 2015 #31

??? truebrit71 May 2015 #34

I didn't realize asking a question was dropping a turd. hrmjustin May 2015 #36

LOL! truebrit71 May 2015 #38

Except, 'his people' didn't rebel against him. polly7 May 2015 #37

But Polly7 jamzrockz May 2015 #93

Informative video, thank you! polly7 May 2015 #96

Your mistake is in thinking foreign policy is about right or wrong BainsBane May 2015 #3

I don't see "US interests" in the questions or answers. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #4

Then I suggest you pick up a book BainsBane May 2015 #9

I'm a citizen of the US. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #12

You and I don't make foreign policy BainsBane May 2015 #15

You're addressing a different issue. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #16

That's a weak cop out, Manny BainsBane May 2015 #19

I'm not going to respond to insults well-marbled with nonsense. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #22

You're the one who referred to examples from the Cold War as "Third Way" BainsBane May 2015 #26

+20,000 nt okaawhatever May 2015 #87

Is every democrat you disagree with Third way? hrmjustin May 2015 #24

JFK is Third Way now too! BainsBane May 2015 #30

Up until recently I never even heard of third way. hrmjustin May 2015 #39

LBJ is NOT Third Way Art_from_Ark May 2015 #91

No. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #44

Thank you. hrmjustin May 2015 #46

As one of the few people here who've actually LIVED in a dictatorship... brooklynite May 2015 #5

Did we help remove Mubarak? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #7

Well, unlike. Mubarak, Qadaffi was willing to use his military.... Adrahil May 2015 #10

Can you point to examples of how one was obviously worse than the other? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #17

Mubarak willingly stepped down BainsBane May 2015 #32

"Willingly stepped down"? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #41

Yep, and what has gone to fill in that power vacuum? AZ Progressive May 2015 #8

Egypt had the military to fill the vacuum, which certainly was not the most ideal Exilednight May 2015 #35

Probably because Mubarak was a US ally and Qaddafi was not. NuclearDem May 2015 #11

Obama withdrew support for Mubarak before he fell BainsBane May 2015 #33

You mean "before he stepped down willingly" MannyGoldstein May 2015 #42

In the face of popular uprising BainsBane May 2015 #47

Which one? oberliner May 2015 #18

I was an ex-pat in the Philippines when Marcos declared martial law... brooklynite May 2015 #77

So by "lived under a dicatorship" what you actually meant was that Warren Stupidity May 2015 #79

No, what he actually meant is exactly what he said. He DID live under a dictatorship. Your contempt okaawhatever May 2015 #88

He made a ridiculous claim. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #92

Fascinating oberliner May 2015 #80

Right...and I've had a comfortable life throughout... brooklynite May 2015 #83

I lived under a dictatorship jamzrockz May 2015 #94

Destabilizing any country leaves sadoldgirl May 2015 #13

Libya now open for ISIS, Africa destabilized and flooded with guns, new immigration crisis... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #14

Apparently, many people believe it was a net win. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #20

I am sure the arms merchants see it that way. hifiguy May 2015 #23

Sadly Republicans clouded the real issues of US intervention in Libya by extreme focus on Benghazi Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #56

IOKIYAHRC reddread May 2015 #21

Here's a synonym for Clusterfuck or FUBAR ... the Hydra ... every time you cut off one of the libdem4life May 2015 #28

Should we have interferred in the Rwandan genocide? wyldwolf May 2015 #40

You think that was a very-similar situation? nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #48

In your world, unless two situations are identical they can't be compared? wyldwolf May 2015 #49

We should only step in if we have a good shot at improving the situation, MannyGoldstein May 2015 #51

Interesting reply. So you wouldn't have approved stopping the genocide. wyldwolf May 2015 #54

I said that? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #57

No, and that's the problem. You were vague. wyldwolf May 2015 #58

I think that you and I have a different understanding of the English language. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #61

I think you really don't want to consider Rwanda in this context. wyldwolf May 2015 #66

I'm happy to. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #67

but you won't consider it in a post. wyldwolf May 2015 #68

As far as I can tell, I've answered any question that you've asked, MannyGoldstein May 2015 #70

Yes, you've answered every question wyldwolf May 2015 #72

The correct answer is "They did not have any oil" -none May 2015 #50

Is there any situation where "progressives" would consent to killing a dictator? wyldwolf May 2015 #52

What do we have the United Nations for? -none May 2015 #59

We're a member of the UN. England kills a dictator=good. U.S. does it = bad? wyldwolf May 2015 #64

Both are not good. Usually, it is none of our business anyway. -none May 2015 #74

Sure MannyGoldstein May 2015 #60

Tell us what constitutes "just and sensible?" wyldwolf May 2015 #69

"Just" means for true defensive or humanitarian causes, i.e., not to grab land, resources or cash MannyGoldstein May 2015 #73

Probably not..considering I have seen many here MicaelS May 2015 #62

Most truthful answer of the three given to my question. wyldwolf May 2015 #63

How does anyone think how we would feel if some other country decided to invade and overthrow -none May 2015 #43

Yes. The hypocrisy is stunning. polly7 May 2015 #45

No one. No one at all.`But we keep poking other countries with sticks until they do something in -none May 2015 #55

Please, Jeebus, let the primaries start tomorrow and end the day after. Buzz Clik May 2015 #53

It's like being forced to go to a lousy movie E-V-E-R-Y day. same ol' plot, same characters. BlueJazz May 2015 #75

Intolerable? Fumesucker May 2015 #76

I need to work on taking your approach. n/t Buzz Clik May 2015 #82

Don't hate the player, love the game Fumesucker May 2015 #85

Sit back and laugh. zappaman May 2015 #98

Other. I don't think it has ever worked out well for any country that Autumn May 2015 #65

I think Libya would be an issue irrespective of the primaries betterdemsonly May 2015 #71

Unintended consequences Spider Jerusalem May 2015 #78

False Choice rock May 2015 #81

Over throwing him was an incredibly Aerows May 2015 #84

"bad man" compared to whom? nt kelliekat44 May 2015 #86

The UN authorized intervention in Libya at the behest of France and the UK primarily pampango May 2015 #89

The French Revolution was a failure. A little man with a big ego went Exilednight May 2015 #90

Exposed: The "Humanitarian" War In Libya polly7 May 2015 #99

Create a vacuum in a place filled with angry hornets. 99Forever May 2015 #95

On Libya and the Unfolding Crises ( 2011 ) Jefferson23 May 2015 #97