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longship

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Thu May 10, 2012, 04:55 PM May 2012

This is becoming a perfect storm V1.2 [View all]

Last edited Thu May 10, 2012, 10:11 PM - Edit history (6)

What a week! It is like a roller coaster ride.

*V1.2- item 13 corrected re senate activity

Earlier this week, when ABC broadcast their exclusive, I posted that this may turn out to be like a Rope-A-Dope for President Obama. Look what has happened.

0. Friday, 4 May. The likely trigger event. Richard Grenell, foreign policy advisor to Mitt Romney resigns under blistering attacks by party-not-named Rmoney supporters for Grenell's gay lifestyle, as they often phrased it.

1. Sunday: Vice President Biden answers a question on MTP about gay marriage, affirming his support.

2. There are ripples in the press about this, some speculating whether this was a shift in policy by the Obama administration. But no hard news either way. Party not named goes ballistic. Republicans don't say much.

2.5. Monday: Secy of Education Arne Duncan supports Biden's position.

3. Tuesday: NC votes a state constitutional amendment basically outlawing any but heterosexual marriages, and simultaneously removing existing rights for other relationships.

4. Wednesday: President Obama comes out for equal marriage rights. It makes a huge splash.

5. Party not named doubles down. FOX calls it war on marriage. Mitt doubles down with party not named. Log Cabin Republicans double down.

6. Centrist Republicans and Shep Smith of FOX News back Obama position. Ornstein and Mann screed hits big. Danforth's also.

7. Thursday: WaPo publishes that Rmoney was an anti-gay high school bully, alleging that he assaulted a student because he was gay.

8. Rmoney equivocates. Says he can't remember the incident in spite of the fact that WaPo cites four witnesses, three on the record! Makes weak apology.

9. Party not named doubles down again, implying that Rmoney was right by cheering the bullying.

10. Rmoney exposed as having specifically opposing anti-bullying commission while he was governor of MA, a commission whose mandate was to specifically address gay bullying.

11. Log Cabin Republicans flip-flop and basically support the Obama position. FOX News flip-flops on war on marriage.

12. Major Jewish organizations make prominent announcements in support of Obama. This takes away the religious arguments of the party not named. Waiting for more of the same from others, like Episcopals, UCC, Methodists, UU, others?

13. Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Committee announces the intention to bring the Employment Non Descrimination Act (ENDA) on June 12.
Majority Leader Reid intends to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).
Hoyer and Reed make statements in support of Obama position.
*Clarifications at responses #30, #41, thx Tx4obama

14. Pelosi supports Obama in the face of House Republicans and party not named attempting to strengthen DOMA, doubling down yet again.

And the hits are going to keep coming.

This is not going to go away. I think we will always remember this week. Cherish it. It could be very important.

Let's not waste it though. We can leverage this by all getting together and before the election and joining hands in DC and as people of reason and intelligence and of all faiths and no faith. We can show the Republicans and the party not named what politics are about. Even though we throw a lot of chairs at each other here at DU, we'll be together as one in DC.

I have no resources to make this happen. But many of you do. It would be an incredible thumbed nose to our ideologically pure opponents.

Thanks for your time.

Nota Bene: low bandwidth here. Please don't ding me for getting days wrong. This week's been fast moving. The take-away is the order of events and how fast the story is developing.

Thank you to everybody supporting this thread. I thought it might be useful in this hectic week. Substantive additions will be added to the chronology.

Love you all!


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This, Sir, Is Why I Do Not Believe The 'Biden Spoke Out Of Turn' Line... The Magistrate May 2012 #1
Well, Obama said he did. longship May 2012 #8
If it won't fight the GOP with every available weapon, it probably deserves the 'grave' crayfish May 2012 #40
I agree 100%. I've been following Biden for many years, and that was deliberate ;) jillan May 2012 #10
I Agree... fascisthunter May 2012 #13
Besides, Joe's gaffes are done on purpose DevonRex May 2012 #25
tfh RUMMYisFROSTED May 2012 #31
The Magistrate speaks the truth! spanone May 2012 #37
Of course he didn't--it was Tinker to Evers to Chance, that whole business. MADem May 2012 #44
I love baseball analogies! longship May 2012 #47
My favorite Occam's Razor quote is "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." MADem May 2012 #51
I believe that would be Arthur Conan Doyle longship May 2012 #56
Yes, our pal Sherlock was essentially invoking Occam's Razor! MADem May 2012 #62
I don't believe he did either. Lugnut May 2012 #59
Well, if they hadn't done it, what would the news have been covering? aquart May 2012 #70
That's true. Lugnut May 2012 #78
100% agreee. The president's comments were no surprise to me at all Number23 May 2012 #60
Biden calculated that this was his moment to push Obama his way. tcaudilllg May 2012 #68
The Sheperd Smith statement was a classic and pretty much caught faux news off guard. sarcasmo May 2012 #2
He did that during Katrina, too. longship May 2012 #48
It's not just THIS week you'll remember, but the entire jaysunb May 2012 #3
I am not a cynic, but I try to be cautious longship May 2012 #12
The landmines were planted by the republicans themselves jaysunb May 2012 #39
Is Obama not brilliant? liberal N proud May 2012 #4
It was an orthogonal move. longship May 2012 #17
An excellent synopsis and analysis. nt DCKit May 2012 #5
Thank you longship May 2012 #18
That's our Joe! rhiannon55 May 2012 #66
Beat me to it - lark May 2012 #71
Good idea and watching naked hatred should be a learning experience for the country. mmonk May 2012 #6
I think it was planned, but my state and my rights got chewed up in the machine. yardwork May 2012 #7
I promise. longship May 2012 #33
Don't give up, don't give in. It's not easy but it can be done. MADem May 2012 #45
Republican leaders have predicted it will be repealed in 20 years. mmonk May 2012 #50
I disagree with your gloomy assessment . . . MrModerate May 2012 #53
There is no such thing as coincidence in politics NNN0LHI May 2012 #9
There are always coincidences longship May 2012 #19
What I am loving is hearing people like Rush Limpo trying to defend the sanctity of marriage! jillan May 2012 #11
You will like this! Quixote1818 May 2012 #15
Don't hold your breath for the Methodists just last week - azurnoir May 2012 #14
It's more from the growth in third world countries xmas74 May 2012 #32
And here's some MORE : Hoyer, Reed, Reid, and ENDA news Tx4obama May 2012 #16
Thank you. Keep the hits coming! Added. longship May 2012 #22
Nancy Pelosi Tx4obama May 2012 #27
Clarification Tx4obama May 2012 #30
TP says Hoyer endorses marriage equality but Reid "backed the LGBT community". His website says cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #26
I thought Biden misspoke but considering the interview was taped Friday and the administration cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #20
Perhaps because of upcoming legislation mentioned by Tx above. DevonRex May 2012 #23
Good question, why now? longship May 2012 #28
Oh, no, not serendipity at all. DevonRex May 2012 #34
I don't buy that, but I cannot refute that longship May 2012 #49
The Episcopalians should speak up wryter2000 May 2012 #21
Democrats have received a windfall of ammunition hifiguy May 2012 #24
I agree with your reactions to these events...but on your point #12 FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #29
The Episcopals, too. longship May 2012 #36
Mittens, Obama is going to beat the white off your ass. edbermac May 2012 #35
Remember last election how Obama worked? (re: chess v checkers) NightWatcher May 2012 #38
When you chill out, 2010 happens. There is no chilling' out. longship May 2012 #42
You are 100% correct ! n/t jaysunb May 2012 #43
Senate may try to repeal Defense of Marriage Act ( DOMA ) Tx4obama May 2012 #41
This REALLY needs to happen. MADem May 2012 #52
Agree and can add two other key events rufus dog May 2012 #46
(rubs hands together) Blue Owl May 2012 #54
Also, Arctic Dave May 2012 #55
Also... Huh? longship May 2012 #57
Fat fingered my phone. Arctic Dave May 2012 #58
WaPo's story was in the works "for weeks", I think Obama/Biden found out about it Waiting For Everyman May 2012 #61
what a difference 10 years made southmost May 2012 #63
I think you're on to something varelse May 2012 #64
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #65
Agree with your assessment, not your conclusion. tcaudilllg May 2012 #67
Well, we will have to see how far this goes longship May 2012 #69
And Romney is ahead of Obama by 7 in the latest poll adigal May 2012 #72
That would be Rasmussen, forget it! nt longship May 2012 #73
Rasmussen polls always favor the republicans. Keep an eye on the other polls other than Rasmussen Tx4obama May 2012 #76
Rec and kick for later stopwastingmymoney May 2012 #74
Cover of 'The New Yorker' Tx4obama May 2012 #75
President Barack "Gigamind" Obama? Zalatix May 2012 #77
A possible '-1' bullet point for you: muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #79
Convention chair Villaraigosa says he was told a cpl wks ahead that Pres. would make statement soon pinboy3niner May 2012 #80
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