John Kerry on TPP: "95 percent of the world’s consumers live beyond the borders of the US"

[Major Hogwash]

143. It was like a carnival here back then.

In 2008.
Members that I thought would support Obama right off the bat, instead supported Hillary, almost as if there were no tomorrow if she was not chosen as the nominee.

Then there were several discussions about the possibility of a brokered convention.
Grantcart even thought there was a good chance of that happening at the national convention that summer.

I was pretty sure that Hillary would eventually concede to Obama, and not force a brokered convention.
So, when cooler heads prevailed and she did concede, I thought that was going to ensure that everyone here would get behind Obama and help him beat McCain.

Instead, there was thread after thread started about Obama's preacher, who somehow or the other became a bigger issue than the national depression we were facing.
At the very same time that we were losing 750,000 jobs a month!!
It is not without some speculation that most of the members who were concentrating on posting about Obama's preacher, and seemed not to be interested in much of anything else, are no longer able to post here.

The 2012 race was not as bad, in my opinion, mostly because Romney never started out with as much credibility as McCain did in 2008.
Romney was such a pathetic liar, easily caught up in his own lies.
And then, of course, his "47 per cent speech" that he gave in front of donors sank his chances of ever getting in to the White House except as a guest!