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frankieallen

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123. I am not scared of guns, I own a pump shotgun for home protecting, which i traded in

Sun May 24, 2015, 12:02 PM

May 2015

my winchester 30/30 and my ruger 9mm to purchase. I have a license to carry large capacity concealed, and have had it since my 21st birthday.
The cops had every right to detain them and inquire into why they were acting so stupid. They are not required to be polite about it.
While it may not be a crime, it's stupid. They got the response they wanted so they could film and post it on the internet, while screaming that their civil rights were being infringed.
There is no reason to walk down a crowded public street with a deadly assault weapon over your shoulder, possibly loaded and ready to shoot, and not in a carrying case, unless your looking to get attention. Or you want to start shooting any moment.
They got what they wanted, and rightfully so.
If the weapon was in a carrying case, I doubt they would of gotten a second look from the cops or anyone else.

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White man with AR-15 O.K. - Black guy, well..... [View all] packman May 2015 OP

Yep. It would be fascinating if Soros or other wealthy liberals would fund an organization dedicated stevenleser May 2015 #1

I am black and visit our range twice a week. DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #56

It doesn't fit sarisataka May 2015 #59

I agree the image of gun owners is a little jaded Backwoodsrider May 2015 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #57

Ugh. This demonstrates the point we already knew, putting the second kid in grave danger. Buzz Clik May 2015 #2

No they wouldnt, quit exaggerating. randys1 May 2015 #3

That says it all world wide wally May 2015 #4

Interesting video but, so what...no new data here CincyDem May 2015 #5

Yes, when they show up at Walmart and so on, that will get attention. randys1 May 2015 #16

well we just might get a shootout Voice for Peace May 2015 #26

Already happened in Texas derby378 May 2015 #6

This one? sarisataka May 2015 #7

Panthers did the same thing at the Sacramento State House in '67. Prompted CA gun legislation leveymg May 2015 #10

BINGO! The right-wing's fucking messiah REAGAN goes down as a hardcore bullwinkle428 May 2015 #11

At the risk of sounding cliche sarisataka May 2015 #13

I remember that..n/t BlueCollar May 2015 #8

Yep LittleBlue May 2015 #90

This video needs to go viral. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #9

Denial of a second amendment rights to minorities by racists has a long and tragic history. Kurska May 2015 #12

The 2A belongs to all citizens... ileus May 2015 #14

History has repeatedly shown otherwise. (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #15

The policeman should have wrestled the stupid white right wing toter to the ground. Hoyt May 2015 #19

The pro gun crowd is very much about racism JI7 May 2015 #17

Exactly. Hoyt May 2015 #20

So should blacks have the same 2A rights? If there was that much racism... Eleanors38 May 2015 #39

blacks Don't have the same rights. tamir rice JI7 May 2015 #44

So, do you want to make it de jure? Malcolm X said 2A was for all citizens... Eleanors38 May 2015 #46

I don't know about the poster, but I want all ethnicities treated the same if they are walking down Hoyt May 2015 #51

"a threat to society until proven otherwise." Nope. It works the other way. Eleanors38 May 2015 #52

I don't think so, not with a gun. Hoyt May 2015 #53

You ought to re-check your views about the role of government in society... Eleanors38 May 2015 #84

What license? NutmegYankee May 2015 #67

Look, quit readin one word at a time while pointing. These yahoos have a gun, they are unstable and Hoyt May 2015 #71

Your posts are just outlandish. NutmegYankee May 2015 #73

Kind of hard to hide an AR15. You don't think these guys are dangerous? Hoyt May 2015 #74

Funny, we were talking about streets in Texas. NutmegYankee May 2015 #75

There's no "should" POC do NOT ... NOT have the same 2a rights as whites, RayGun showed us that uponit7771 May 2015 #81

No doubt blacks' rights are circumscribed in most ways, but I don't see that with 2A. Eleanors38 May 2015 #86

I recently told my "racist" joke to group of about 5 dealers at a gunshow. It's actually a joke brewens May 2015 #79

More examples of racism in policing. aikoaiko May 2015 #18

Actually, I think the policeman's response in the second video was proper. The first guy should Hoyt May 2015 #21

"they should not" but they do and all people should be free from harassment. aikoaiko May 2015 #35

A policeman, or a bystander, seeing someone with a gun walking down the street has the right to Hoyt May 2015 #37

Like this? sarisataka May 2015 #42

I'd suggest calling police, but you gotta do what you gotta do when an unstable person walks down Hoyt May 2015 #43

Gotta do what you gotta do sarisataka May 2015 #45

Why aren't you berating the legislators and Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #48

So you are saying the ignorant racist carrying a gun is as likely to kill a concerned citizen as a Hoyt May 2015 #50

No. I am saying that the people you should be criticising are the legislators, not the Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #58

I agree with legislators are fools, but the laws do not REQUIRE yahoos to walk around with a gun. Hoyt May 2015 #61

The priority of blame must rest on the shoulders of the legislators, not the governed. It's why Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #62

So in other words - you support police brutality, particularly when no crime is being committed? NutmegYankee May 2015 #68

I support treating armed people like a potential terrorist, criminal, mentally unstable person, etc. Hoyt May 2015 #69

I consider drawing a weapon on someone to be brutality. NutmegYankee May 2015 #72

Legally, it is Aggravated Assault with a Firearm. leveymg May 2015 #76

I dream of a day when the police are held to the same rules as everybody else. NutmegYankee May 2015 #78

WHILE HIKING is the operative phrase in your post jmowreader May 2015 #95

It's turkey hunting season right now. NutmegYankee May 2015 #104

A gun fancier walking down a city street is a threat. Hoyt May 2015 #96

This is not the first time you've advocated vigilantism directed against gun owners friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #94

I would suggest that you not strap one of your gunz on when walking in public. You avoid Hoyt May 2015 #97

I would suggest that you abandon your support for vigilantism and police oppression... friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #106

Legal maybe. Moral or good for society, not hardly. Hoyt May 2015 #107

You are part of a long American tradition, Hoyt friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #109

Not to worry, all those sarisataka May 2015 #116

That is a couple very brave people uppityperson May 2015 #22

Sorry, meant to post elsewhere. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #29

In complete contrast to the bunch of police cowards. Just look at them! Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #31

The first cop hiding behind the car door was smarter than you think. From that A Simple Game May 2015 #38

That's part of the reason why I was so astonished that he stayed so far away. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #60

And once Johnny Law saw that it was a set-up they all still played it as if they A Simple Game May 2015 #65

Well, I have to concede - second best is better than third or nowt. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #83

For sure. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #33

I saw the black guy w/ gun and immediately thought, "OMG he's going to get killed" fbc May 2015 #23

And the first cop kept him covered, just waiting for him to make any wrong move. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #30

Any wrong move or any move at all. Jamastiene May 2015 #93

Law enforcement exists to protect the status quo. Dawson Leery May 2015 #24

Considering how trigger-happy cops are with black guys these days DFW May 2015 #25

Every time I hear the police or a SamKnause May 2015 #27

K&R napkinz May 2015 #28

But only when there are no LEO present to see that behavior aikoaiko May 2015 #63

The guns were pointed at officers. JTFrog May 2015 #87

There were no LEO on the bridge to see him doing it. aikoaiko May 2015 #88

So the news and the assistant sheriff just made it up that guns were pointed at the officers? JTFrog May 2015 #89

They were describing what was happening in the ravine, not on the bridge aikoaiko May 2015 #92

Google Huey P. Newton Gun Club. Is it photoshopped or not? Eleanors38 May 2015 #32

Wonder if he's going to be billed for the police response. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #34

Why? He didn't break the law. It specifically protects every one who chooses to Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #85

gun laws have always been to stop african-americans from owning guns captainarizona May 2015 #36

Sullivan Laws rode in on a wave of anti-Italian sentiment. Eleanors38 May 2015 #40

Does anyone know how these incidents ended? Flatulo May 2015 #41

The cops detained him another 5 minutes or so, gave him his weapon back, sent him on his way. . . Journeyman May 2015 #100

Thanks for finding that. While I don't doubt for a second that blacks are being profiled, I have Flatulo May 2015 #105

The white guys were detained for approximately the same amount of time, then let go. . . Journeyman May 2015 #101

I wish I didn't watch that olddots May 2015 #47

It would be better if it was the same cop on another day imnew May 2015 #49

I agree. It wasn't the same law enforcement agency... or state rollin74 May 2015 #66

... POC don't have that benefit to govern actions from individual officers, we're not judged by uponit7771 May 2015 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #54

Is this a joke ? imnew May 2015 #55

So how did it end? . . . Journeyman May 2015 #64

Answered my own question . . . Journeyman May 2015 #102

They both should of been told to drop the gun frankieallen May 2015 #70

So even though they broke no laws nor explicitly threatened anyone hack89 May 2015 #110

Brutality? Taking control of a situation is police brutality? Amazing how frankieallen May 2015 #119

It is perfectly legal to walk down the street with a rifle over your shoulder hack89 May 2015 #120

I am not scared of guns, I own a pump shotgun for home protecting, which i traded in frankieallen May 2015 #123

Do they have to be polite when approaching young black men? hack89 May 2015 #125

Tamir Rice and John Crawford sarisataka May 2015 #113

huh? What does that have to do with the conversation? frankieallen May 2015 #124

That is why Gov. Reagan pushed for gun control laws in California--because the tblue37 May 2015 #82

K&R cprise May 2015 #91

I'm speechless! Though I should not be. bobGandolf May 2015 #98

This is the first time I've seen a black guy confronted this way, but plenty of white rednecks. Cassidy1 May 2015 #99

Lots of white gun toters have been proned out by the police mwrguy May 2015 #103

Are there any *other* groups that you think ought to be proned out... friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #108

Police brutality is fine when directed at the proper people? hack89 May 2015 #111

The Black Panthers did and open carry was passed in TX WestSideStory May 2015 #112

Open carry isn't legal in Texas yet. tammywammy May 2015 #118

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #114

This Is White Privledge, Full On! sylvanus May 2015 #115

kick nt napkinz May 2015 #117

The Islamic Youth Peaceful Right-to-Carry Brigade. DirkGently May 2015 #121

A very stark illustration of white privilege and police discrimination. DanTex May 2015 #122