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Tierra_y_Libertad

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37. As I said, political expediency and hypocrisy explains that.
Sun May 24, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

I've never believed that politicians don't lie, procrastinate, triangulate, pander, obfuscate, and indulge in truthiness, etc, in order to get elected. It goes with the job and I accept that.

But, sometimes they go too far. I don't mind if they vote to name bridges after Ronald Reagan or go to church when they're atheists or eat Saurkraut in German neighborhood and bagels in Jewish neighborhoods while yearning for Chinese food. I don't even mind if the cheat on their spouses while regaling us with their love for family values.

But, when they start collaborating with Republicans, voting for wars they know are they know are unnecessary, eagerly seek out money from plutocrats, vote for things like "welfare reform", etc, then rely on "not as bad" to get our votes, I get off the train.

In my state there is no registration by party since (IIRC) 2008. I registered as Democrat when I moved here in 1993 but officially I'm like all Washingtonians an Independent. Which is fine by me because I've never been wedded to the party since I first registered in 1965.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
--Thomas Jefferson

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So we were both at about the same data point as Gandhi./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #2
Fascinating. 99Forever May 2015 #7
And Mandela./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #8
Not bad company to be in. 99Forever May 2015 #10
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Why is the test silly?/NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #5
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Economic Left/Right: -8.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67 Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #9
This is interesting DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #11
I suppose. I voted for Jull Stein in 2012. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #13
Everybody who has taken the test so far is to the left of the Socialist parties./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #15
Good. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #18
I suspect that a lot of so called centrist politicians if they took the test... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20
Political expediencey and just plain hypocrisy explains that. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #25
Your vote is something else. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #26
I've voted in 23 federal elections. My vote has never decided the outcome of any of them. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #28
I am not one of the "you must vote as I say" brigade. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #30
As I said, political expediency and hypocrisy explains that. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #37
Then why are you here on DU? Isn't there a Socialist/Green Underground where people advance those okaawhatever May 2015 #19
Because I'm a Democrat. How about you? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #21
Tierra can believe what he wants... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22
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If that's the rule and it is strictly enforced there will be five of us posting./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #27
I do vote for Democrats. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #38
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