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29. I agree with your reactions to these events...but on your point #12

Thu May 10, 2012, 06:58 PM

May 2012

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Specifically two of the religious bodies you mention have been at the fore front of acceptance and advocacy of marriage equality and LGBT rights for a long time: Unitarian Universalists and United Church of Christ (Obama's denomination)

They could rightly respond by saying 'what took him so long'

http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/lgbt-history-timeline.html
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_and_affirming

From Wiki:
"On same-sex marriage:
Churches in the UCC can sanctify same-sex unions. The resolution "In support of equal marriage rights for all", supported by an estimated 80% of the UCC's 2005 general synod delegates, made the United Church of Christ the first major Christian deliberative body in the U.S. to make a statement of support for "equal marriage rights for all people, regardless of gender," and is hitherto the largest Christian denominational entity in the U.S. supporting same-sex marriage."

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