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In reply to the discussion: I'm going to hurl a few three letter "words" at President Obama's legacy [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... but I still wonder WHY he just didn't do what he did earlier? Are you not concerned that the TPP, if passed, will make it so that what he did ultimately after a year or so of protests and arguing about it, that the TPP ISDS courts that Obama will have enabled, will ultimately let those that wanted Keystone passed to get their way anyway? Does that not concern you? If they do so, does that make you question whether Obama really cared to stop Keystone or not, if he created the avenue for it to happen anyway through TPP? Does that make you wonder if his veto of Keystone is ultimately just for show when the TPP in effect could let TransCanada and other oil interests do an end around on the Keystone bill? And if it was just for show, does that make you also not wonder if many other actions of Obama are also for show, if they can be altered or worked around later?
We still have an overly costly Obamacare system, even if it is doing GREAT things to provide many of us coverage. And I still would argue that if he was as prudent at pushing things like single payer or a public option as he is at pushing TPP, that we might have a less costly system too, that will stand more the test of time and Republican efforts to try and tear it down later.
I do give Obama a lot of credit for helping change an administration's and the country's stated view on gay marriage, and other issues like that. But in many of those cases, I don't think he's not taking risks on those issues in challenging what the wealthy PTB want done for them like they are obviously strongly pressuring him on TPP right now.