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95. +10000 Standard MO of our corrupt government now
Mon May 25, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

and our corrupt political machines.

Imagine if we could see the black budget for propaganda these days.

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:

Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.

Start with Omar Kahn. Democratic campaign worker from FLA and Crist campaign, TheNutcracker May 2015 #1
Agree w U! Anyone who is labelled as a "Democratic campaign worker" for the state of truedelphi May 2015 #19
Yes. The Dem Party in Florida is very dysfunctional. HooptieWagon May 2015 #60
So, the key to whether something is bad for us is whether there is a public protest? Hoyt May 2015 #2
That's so predictable - marginalize and dilute and conflate the message. Fail. djean111 May 2015 #3
No, it's a valid and legitmate point . .. PosterChild May 2015 #5
"we live in a REPRESENTATIVE democracy" Phlem May 2015 #32
Sure... PosterChild May 2015 #47
ooo, ooo, you got me! Phlem May 2015 #48
LOL, if by "people" you mean... PosterChild May 2015 #49
wow Phlem May 2015 #51
Then good night (nm) PosterChild May 2015 #54
that is not EVER going to happen, Phlem Skittles May 2015 #57
*sigh* sad but true. Phlem May 2015 #58
Tiger Beat Skittles May 2015 #59
Gerry mandering so districts are shaped like Chinese dragons? Divernan May 2015 #45
No sane person calls street protests . .. PosterChild May 2015 #46
Well, no. "Street protests" have heralded every social advance of the past 100 years. DirkGently May 2015 #70
Very well said. n/t ronnie624 May 2015 #73
Sometimes, sometimes ... PosterChild May 2015 #75
No sane person calls street protests representive. TiberiusB May 2015 #85
Representive tennstar May 2015 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord May 2015 #81
The message is garbled gobbledygook. Just another shovel of bullshit on an already tall pile. Buzz Clik May 2015 #28
No. Why do you ask? DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #4
The Vietnam protests drew puplic interests because the war was wrong. Too young to remember? L0oniX May 2015 #16
Didn't say some protests weren't justified. I bet I'm twice as old as you, or close to it. Hoyt May 2015 #42
+1 Buzz Clik May 2015 #29
OMG. Really? Phlem May 2015 #30
Public protest PLUS no media coverage. Remember all the antiwar protests on teevee? valerief May 2015 #37
The office of a US Congressman was occupied last week nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #52
It's a measure of public support for an idea, is the point. DirkGently May 2015 #72
Public polling by the Pew Research Center polling doesn't support your assertion cheapdate May 2015 #82
A 6-month old mixed bag. And the "grass roots support" remains FAKE. DirkGently May 2015 #91
Since we live in a REPRESENTATIVE democracy ... PosterChild May 2015 #6
Then start showing me a reasonable and well thought out policy position. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #8
As a card carrying member of the ACLU.. PosterChild May 2015 #11
Then maybe you shouldn't write posts that suggest people don't need to exercise their rights. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #13
LOL- Maybe I didn't, and ,.. PosterChild May 2015 #14
And yet, the Bundy freaks are more legitimate than the online pro-TPP astroturf shills brentspeak May 2015 #9
Historical pattens suggest otherwise. PETRUS May 2015 #40
I tried more thougtful ways. chev52 May 2015 #76
To be clear.. PosterChild May 2015 #79
The way they tap-dance Populist_Prole May 2015 #7
Integration propaganda OnyxCollie May 2015 #10
the overtly disdainful communication style of authoritarians perplexes me carolinayellowdog May 2015 #23
That is exactly how it seems. Marr May 2015 #69
Let me add one nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #12
Fuck the TPP ! L0oniX May 2015 #15
"There is no actual public support for the TPP." That's not what the polls show. pampango May 2015 #17
Exactly. It's not 0%. It's 1% Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #20
The last polls I've seen show Democratic support in the 50% to 60% range with pampango May 2015 #22
That's because there are Dems saying, "Love Obama = Love TPP". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #43
Either that or Democrats view international negotiations and agreements as the way to deal pampango May 2015 #50
TPA passed out of the Senate on the strength of the REPUBLICAN vote. Romulox May 2015 #55
The reality is that there is a huge disconnect between the republican establishment and base. pampango May 2015 #61
So you stand with the Republican Establishment (this time? lol), against the DEMOCRATIC base. nt Romulox May 2015 #66
I understand that the Democratic base supports it according to the polls. It is the republican base pampango May 2015 #68
And yet... TiberiusB May 2015 #86
don't give 'em any ideas, they have the dough to hire like a million people to march on the Mall MisterP May 2015 #18
Good (but sad) point. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #21
And then there are those who are only for it because Barack Obama is for it. And totodeinhere May 2015 #24
That is a big component here, I'm afraid. BillZBubb May 2015 #34
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast May 2015 #63
Who doesn't get that leaders answer to US; DirkGently May 2015 #74
No worse than being against it just because he is for it treestar May 2015 #92
And there are plenty of Republicans who have that attitude. But I think that totodeinhere May 2015 #100
Hard to protest for or against something that don't exist yet! Cryptoad May 2015 #25
The anti-folks are rallying hard: Buzz Clik May 2015 #27
You know very well there have been leaked details, and that's what people object to. Marr May 2015 #87
Has the part about legalizing slavery been leaked? Buzz Clik May 2015 #89
You don't know what's been leaked? Marr May 2015 #97
Hm. What fraction do you suppose has leaked? Buzz Clik May 2015 #98
It's not a novel, it's a legal document. Marr May 2015 #99
That and happening to find every "leak" to be an outrage treestar May 2015 #93
I suppose it's possible that pro-TPP people are waiting for: Buzz Clik May 2015 #26
A stretch if you ask me - I haven't seen any public rallies in favor of air recently, either! George II May 2015 #31
A big yep! Phlem May 2015 #33
There are, however, protests about dirty air almost daily somewhere in the US. BillZBubb May 2015 #36
Ad hominem alone treestar May 2015 #35
Lots of actual people support it MaggieD May 2015 #38
Rah-Rah -Rah - Obama. 840high May 2015 #56
Democrats are mindless Obama cheerleaders. Right-wing talk radio needs to expose this right away! pampango May 2015 #62
Lots of actual people -- like the ones who own corporations. Octafish May 2015 #67
Yes. MaggieD May 2015 #77
Rodham-Clinton comments on Wal Mart in 1990 nationalize the fed May 2015 #90
Jackson Stephens, BCCI and Walton Mart Octafish May 2015 #96
Yep. So many stand with the corporations and then claim to stand with the exploited. raouldukelives May 2015 #83
Holy shit-- well, at least you're being honest here. CEO's = important, workers = not Marr May 2015 #88
All it proves is how intelligent they are ConservativeDemocrat May 2015 #39
Supporting TPP is written into the latest (2012) Democratic Party Platform: ucrdem May 2015 #41
Also in the 2012 Republican Party Platform- so you could say it's Buy-Partisan nationalize the fed May 2015 #44
If you're looking forward to a "Reagan Economic Zone," keep knocking TPP. nt ucrdem May 2015 #53
Sockpuppet fest. Enthusiast May 2015 #64
Exactly. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #65
+10000 Standard MO of our corrupt government now woo me with science May 2015 #95
The black budgets for propaganda and surveillance would blow some minds! Enthusiast May 2015 #102
HuffPo: Rush Limbaugh Attacks Obama's Trade Agenda ucrdem May 2015 #71
Some people still trust our government ...even after Vietnam and Iraq. Blind trust is easy for some. L0oniX May 2015 #78
I trust our government more than I do folks like this -- Hoyt May 2015 #101
If anything is "fake"... cheapdate May 2015 #84
Huge K&R. IMO that's a major issue of this election. woo me with science May 2015 #94
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