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pipoman

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186. one who has spent years

Tue May 26, 2015, 03:43 PM

May 2015

Sucking up to and doing exactly what she has been told to do by her corporate masters, voting for wars, advocating policy against the working people, not doing a single thing for the US unless they are 1%ers...a virtual guarantee of exactly more of the same nation destroying that has been going on for the last 5 or 6 presidents....the vast center will never vote for her and without them we will not have a Democrat in the presidency...No, she will not win the presidency...we need a candidate who will actually deliver change..

And if you want to insure she loses just keep it up with the misogyny dogshit...I suppose Elizabeth Warren isn't woman enough, eh? I will not vote for ANYONE because of their race, religion, or gender...only a complete idiot would...

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Post this after the primaries start and stop whistling past the graveyard. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #1

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This far out it's impossible to tell. I say start the debates early, and THEN make predictions. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #10

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Today is almost a year out AgingAmerican May 2015 #149

+1 CountAllVotes May 2015 #104

Just let 'em whistle. pa28 May 2015 #17

if thats slow reddread May 2015 #55

It's just getting started... those polls are still meaningless eloydude May 2015 #2

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We just started and she is already down 33 points. Katashi_itto May 2015 #91

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Give it time Katashi_itto May 2015 #150

Poor poor Bernie Sanders. Luminous Animal May 2015 #4

Reality is not appreciated. okasha May 2015 #5

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sure it is reddread May 2015 #57

Here's a blast from the past. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #7

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Yeah, Bernie is no "moderate '80s Republican" Art_from_Ark May 2015 #9

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I don't give a damn how Hillary is polling at this point in time Art_from_Ark May 2015 #15

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The average voter still does not really know who Bernie is right now Art_from_Ark May 2015 #20

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He got 24% of *what* vote in Washington State? Art_from_Ark May 2015 #24

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Bernie has never run for elected office in Washington State. Art_from_Ark May 2015 #42

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You said he received 24% of the *vote* Art_from_Ark May 2015 #60

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Public Policy Poll just had him at 24% last week. TheNutcracker May 2015 #177

Actually, you would be factually wrong. TM99 May 2015 #31

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Given history, you are more likely to lose that bet TM99 May 2015 #39

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I suspect you are jumping ahead to the general election. TM99 May 2015 #47

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I think so. Agschmid May 2015 #143

Yea, Carson is polling at a whopping 23%, so did Herman Cain leftofcool May 2015 #85

Look, you are not even reading information TM99 May 2015 #87

LOL. Agschmid May 2015 #142

As far as American's electing TM99 May 2015 #193

Bernie's not going to have the press in his pocket. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #30

It was also massively supported okasha May 2015 #48

Excellent point. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #165

Wait til she has to face him on the debate stage. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #12

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Nothing is certain. Democrats should not count on Hillary. JDPriestly May 2015 #14

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Clinton being in the same place ideologically is a certain sign of snake oil sales being in effect. TheKentuckian May 2015 #184

History....study it pipoman May 2015 #16

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She's one scandal or stupid statement from insignificance pipoman May 2015 #25

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Really now! juajen May 2015 #181

one who has spent years pipoman May 2015 #186

No, she's really not a strong candidate Scootaloo May 2015 #62

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But it's what will most likely happen. Scootaloo May 2015 #69

Polls in Arkansas early last year showed Mark Pryor easily defeating Tom Cotton Art_from_Ark May 2015 #76

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Same as Bill Clinton and Obama. jeff47 May 2015 #163

Hyperbolic BS. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, the republicans will go against them in force. still_one May 2015 #71

Thank you for the insult, but it doesn't make your argument any stronger. Scootaloo May 2015 #72

That wasn't meant as an insult, and it was definitely not meant to be personal, but calling the still_one May 2015 #73

Republicans will "go against them", but that won't motivate the base as well jeff47 May 2015 #166

I disagree. The republican party today views all Democrats as anti-American. Their base is the still_one May 2015 #169

They view all Democrats as anti-American, but Clinton is Satan incarnate to them. jeff47 May 2015 #173

She is the weakest candidate eloydude May 2015 #189

What were those many 50+% recoveries in a matter of days? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #120

Whatever the case may be, this is no argument for not supporting him in the Primaries. Bonobo May 2015 #22

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The vast majority here on DU are with me. The polls here show that. Bonobo May 2015 #28

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Nor I. okasha May 2015 #35

"DU is a very good reflection of Democratic hopes and ideals." Really? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #74

Yes, hopes and ideals. Here's a great link for you. Bonobo May 2015 #75

Well alrighty then. I'm taking my "ideals" to bed, and "hoping" I can fall asleep. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #78

A majority of Americans supported the Iraq War too. Scootaloo May 2015 #43

I have as good a chance as Bernie of getting the nomination workinclasszero May 2015 #32

I remember how Clinton supporters insisted Barack Hussein Obama had no chance, too Scootaloo May 2015 #40

Which reality based world are we talking? TM99 May 2015 #41

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I am not trying to be mean when I say this TM99 May 2015 #50

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So did Carter. TM99 May 2015 #82

And Barack Obama who won the nomination against............. davidpdx May 2015 #90

this one reddread May 2015 #59

Yes, we've been hearing about it since at least 2009 Scootaloo May 2015 #38

Bernie can't win the primary, but I support him anyway. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #45

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You can't make a shark Aerows May 2015 #52

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It's worth asking Aerows May 2015 #68

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It's not Aerows May 2015 #167

Can't make a guppy into a whale either. Nt hack89 May 2015 #83

Would you rather have a goldfish okasha May 2015 #175

Why are you so worried? AgingAmerican May 2015 #54

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No, we just have to keep explainig things like "primaries" and "campaigning" to you Scootaloo May 2015 #66

There will be another Dem in a couple of days. leftofcool May 2015 #101

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No, that's HCG echo-chamber claptrap Scootaloo May 2015 #194

People like him AgingAmerican May 2015 #126

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It's the endless hand wringing AgingAmerican May 2015 #145

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Because... When HIS Lips Move... HE Does Not Lie... Unlike Most Politicians... WillyT May 2015 #61

Plenty of time to catch up. zappaman May 2015 #65

Bernie!! AzDar May 2015 #67

Eugene McCarthy was massively behind LBJ even one month before the primaries. Ken Burch May 2015 #70

Bernie supporters certainly doo appreciate the concern of Hillary supporters, yet are puzzled by it. merrily May 2015 #77

Okay Sherman A1 May 2015 #79

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Everyone is entitled to their opinions Sherman A1 May 2015 #190

Don't worry quaker bill May 2015 #80

I'm baffled too. Reminds me of the hundreds of DUers who once rallied around Kucinich. lamp_shade May 2015 #81

Baffled by people who support someone who closely mirrors their values? Marrah_G May 2015 #154

: liberal N proud May 2015 #84

Bernie will never beat her in the primary! leftofcool May 2015 #86

Because... 99Forever May 2015 #88

What polls? hootinholler May 2015 #89

Thanks for that. TM99 May 2015 #93

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No link? hootinholler May 2015 #152

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Let's assume that Bernie or Webb or Warren or O'Malley have a great message... Sancho May 2015 #92

I see it this way deutsey May 2015 #98

I agree that different candidates are beneficial to changing the narrative. Sancho May 2015 #106

True, but I also think of what Naomi Klein observed re: Shock Doctrine deutsey May 2015 #115

I don't think immigrants see a "centrist" view... Sancho May 2015 #132

It's all tangled together, imo deutsey May 2015 #140

College students also confused Obama with bin Laden this far out. jeff47 May 2015 #170

For what it's worth, my brother and sister-in-law are registered repubs in NC. Sancho May 2015 #176

My point is Bernie (or Clinton) doesn't have to counter that in FL. jeff47 May 2015 #182

Those are impressive polling numbers for HRC Gothmog May 2015 #94

So let him lose in the primaries. JHB May 2015 #95

Apparently not too hard! MoonRiver May 2015 #100

Any position poll you look at is completely meaningless. Most polls Exilednight May 2015 #96

Bernie Sanders has no clear path to victory and will never be president. MohRokTah May 2015 #97

Eh... kenfrequed May 2015 #99

The only hope of Bernie is to steer Hillary leftward! B Calm May 2015 #102

Which is meaningless beyond the elections. Marrah_G May 2015 #155

I think his only hope is for some sensational scandal to emerge.. DCBob May 2015 #103

She's down 33 points already, and LWolf May 2015 #105

Poll numbers are only one indicator. Renew Deal May 2015 #107

She was up this far at this point in her last Pres campaign also..... Just saying.... peacebird May 2015 #108

And the gap between her and Obama? nt hack89 May 2015 #109

Last Thursday someone posted here that her gap at same time was 27 vs 24 for Bernie & Obama peacebird May 2015 #112

So the gap between Obama and HRC was 27 points hack89 May 2015 #114

I appreciate your concern, but Bernie is doing just fine! peacebird May 2015 #116

But he is not. hack89 May 2015 #119

As stated before, if HRC's supporters weren't so worried about Bernie we wouldn't have so many of peacebird May 2015 #172

It is not worry - perplexed is a more apt term. hack89 May 2015 #174

Twitter, reddit, facebook, and his campaign earned more $$$ than any R in first 24 hours. peacebird May 2015 #178

So? hack89 May 2015 #180

No, the gap between her and Obama was about 15%; it's 50% between her and Bernie muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #122

That's not true Renew Deal May 2015 #136

I don't know if it will be enough mythology May 2015 #110

I don't know, but I'm willing to give him a chance to show us. aikoaiko May 2015 #111

Yep, reality sucks sometimes and then you grow up. Bernie cannot win the general beaglelover May 2015 #113

If Hillary supporters were not worried about Bernie then I doubt we would have posts every day peacebird May 2015 #118

A whole lot of people took the bait here huh? Agschmid May 2015 #117

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Groupthink is a dangerous thing. It's May 2015...... Avalux May 2015 #121

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I'm intrigued that, as of yet, no one has attempted to answer your question. OilemFirchen May 2015 #134

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Jeeze ...another poll pissing contest. L0oniX May 2015 #128

Laugh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #137

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Name recognition is shorthand, because it basically says Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #153

The proper idea about civic responsibility is to vote for those candidates that most closely -none May 2015 #138

Your concern for Bernie is noted. truebluegreen May 2015 #141

Hm. Let's see. WilliamPitt May 2015 #146

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I will qualify this nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #162

The race has barely begun Marrah_G May 2015 #151

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I don't believe anyone is or should be, inevitable. Marrah_G May 2015 #160

My calendar reads May 26, 2015 nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #158

At least he's out beating the right drum CanonRay May 2015 #161

It may not be Sanders Man from Pickens May 2015 #164

And on Sunday, Juan Montoya started the Indy 500 in 30th place. Myrina May 2015 #168

Of course, nobody has said Bernie Sanders SHOULDN'T run if he wants brooklynite May 2015 #187

Sanders is ahead of where McGovern was at this point in the cycle. Jim Lane May 2015 #171

It may be Sanders is at his max polling. Thinkingabout May 2015 #179

That's because tptb have already... polichick May 2015 #183

Whoever gets the most delegates Cali_Democrat May 2015 #185

Yes and HRC was the front-runner in 2008 Rex May 2015 #188

While what you say is true about 2008, this election is not likely to be like 2008 Algernon Moncrieff May 2015 #191

Last month it was 60. Octafish May 2015 #192

The people who do not vote due to apathy regarding our political system has kept conservatives Jefferson23 May 2015 #195