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In reply to the discussion: The male suicides: Social perfectionism is killing men — and things are getting worse [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,976 posts)No one will deny men have more privileges than women, however, society also takes these same privileges and twists them around to being curses, the same way that ideas of motherhood and beauty often are turned into baneful things for women. The thing that men and women need to see is that the "gender roles" are just blinders meant to keep both men and women marching along into neat little roles so that the Rich will profit while you live, and boil both men and women into glue when they are done.
You do not have to deny sexism to admit that the idea of what is expected of men are hateful, and in the long run, just as bad for men as they are for women. One advantage of being disabled is that you can go to the office, and see all those one time supermen drive up in the expensive car (that will be repossessed next month) and see them dangle in the air because they had no idea they would be in this position. All of us are disposable, male and female, and the rich will afford whatever they want to regardless.
Yes, I did get a hint of "it's hard for us too" which is bad, because instead of focusing on the creeps that put someone in the position, they focus on women. However, to he feminist, I would say, if you point out that no, this male "privilege" thing has a very unhappy ending, you can actually hit the enemy where it hurts, by depriving them of foot soldiers and funding.
To the MRA"S, look, we know that you latch onto articles like this as a stalking horse to progress towards the idea of "You Ladieeez ar duh reasonz life suxx" we, in the worlds of one MRA I often argue with "let me straighten you out." As bad as you may genuinely have it, women get it worse, because women, especially working women, make easier targets, in part because of people like you. That is because you think you are owed something, look, American Capitalism not only thinks it does not owe you anything, it think it has a right to take from you what little you have, and put you in debt for more. The ugly fact is, while many of these men who were wrecked are crying, they never realized that they sold themselves bullshit instead of looking where they were going. Those Rich creeps that paid you to take people to the slaughterhouse, guess what, they had you on the menu too, all along. The same goes for the Calry Fiorinas and other female CEOs who think the fact they made it proves feminism is a lie, only to find themselves in the slaughterhouse as well.
As big as gender issues, and even race issues, are, we can never forget, in America, they are used to hide the one thing that matters in the end, CLASS Issues. By the time the meat grinder is done with us, gender nor race will matter, only that the rich get those sausages they like to feed their pets.