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In reply to the discussion: The male suicides: Social perfectionism is killing men — and things are getting worse [View all]Rex
(65,616 posts)Sorry but culturally the UK is not the USA so there are going to be some differences. However the overall jist is that men are productive drones going off to work 40 hours a week and women CAN if they want to but will be happy at home and just tend to the kids. This is the same old story of human history told for Milena on over. Suicide is nothing new, wasn't invented just last week.
How one can overcome the will to live even for a second is beyond my understanding, yet yes it happens far too frequently. To deny every cell in the body, to overcome that in some ways is a herculean task. I've had several relatives kill themselves over the decades. Mostly due to drugs and stupidity and not so much from suicide.
There are two exceptions to this, both were men and both lost their careers. The article to me feels somewhat outdated in that I don't believe women are less likely to kill themselves over a devastating job loss. Women have careers today, wake up and let's think for a minute here. Not all men live and die depending on how their job goes, many will have dozens of jobs in their lifetimes (days of working for a pension are a pipedream of yesteryear) and so will women.
That creates a lot more stress, maybe not going to get medical coverage or need two or three jobs to make ends meet. How does that play out on the American Dream? Just look at the rate of vets coming back from warzones that kill themselves, how do we even begin to figure out and approach to fixing that issue? Their job was to kill people.
The study probably is accurate for the UK. I think in America, Gen X kinda put a dent in the traditional reasons for suicide. Also an issue with 'pet projects' everyone has them they are called habits. We get into the habits and they make us feel confident in our relationship with the environment. Throw that out of wack and I don't care what gender, the chances of something drastic goes way up. Even if it is a brief spike then diminishes.
It is alarming to read that 40 people kill themselves in South Korea a day, that is not a big country by any means. The pressure we put on men and women today is ludicrous and mimics the unattainable we see in commercials trying to pretend they are normal people (like us) so we will feel more confident after buying a new car etc.. It is all fake, the world is a lie and there is no purpose.
You have no control outside of your own grasp, let it go. The easiest way to fuck up a human brain is to let it fill itself with all kinds of outlandish notions about others that nobody ever thought to begin with. The brains can screw itself up without needing much help, it is a wonder we are all still here imo.