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In reply to the discussion: OMG BERNIE SANDERS IS SO FAR BEHIND IN THE POLLS YOU GUYS [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)There are a lot of issues that can and should be addressed by the candidates, with clear, concise answers.. That is one of them.
Colorado didn't "decriminalize", either. They LEGALIZED. This may come as staggeringly shocking news to people who are only vaguely aware that there is an entire rest of the country beyond the East Coast, but pot has been "decriminalized" in many states for decades, starting with Oregon in 1973. "decriminalized" means it's treated like a parking ticket or an infraction. "legalized" means the state is regulating retail outlets for consenting adult sale.
Who Colorado sent to the Senate? Maybe that had something to do with the (D) Governor of Colorado being opposed to the will of the people on marijuana? (It also undeniably had to do with a poorly run campaign by our Senate candidate, and the pushing of gun control, which like it or not is a loser issue at the federal level) Yeah, the message there is that if our party doesn't get off our ass in terms of legalization- a proposition now favored by a MAJORITY of Americans, mind you- the libertarian wing of the GOP will be happy to court those voters. Why in the everloving fuck would we want to cede pro-legalization young voters to the Republicans? Because Bob Shrum still thinks "tough on drugs" sells like it's 1988? Ask Debbie Wasserman-Schultz; she found out which way the winds are blowing.
I'm not sure what argument you're making, with Colorado. The fact that it's a crucial electoral swing state makes the things voters care about there LESS important? How exactly does that work?
Oh, and speaking of Oregon- you do know that Oregon voted to legalize (yes, "legalize", not "decriminalize"
pot this last election cycle? Which means Oregon, like Washington and Colorado, will have State-licensed marijuana businesses raking in huge amounts of tax dollars for state coffers?
You know what Oregon was, in 2014? One of the FEW states where Democrats consistently kicked ass and won all statewide contests. Oregon also has the 1st US Senator to support Legalization. Oregon also has a STATE Democratic party that, likewise, supported legalization.
And voters turned out, in Oregon. For DEMOCRATS.
As for the rest of it. It's "unsubstantiated speculation" that some 2008 Hillary backers might not be supporting her this time around? Okay, fine, fucking stick me on the unsubstantiated speculation bus. But you know what ELSE is "unsubstantiated speculation"? The assertion that every damn person who supported her 6 years ago, is going to again.
You want to substantiate it with a comprehensive list of all the people who voted for her in the primary with a sworn affadaivit that they (presuming they're still alive) will support her again, great, then we're playing in the realm of "substantiated speculation".
Until then, man, we're on a message board. We're ALL speculating unsubstantiated-ly.