The male suicides: Social perfectionism is killing men — and things are getting worse

[davidthegnome]

163. The intent was not to describe them at any length.

They were both good men - and my Father is still, a good man. They didn't neatly fit into stereo types, not fully, no one does. My intent was to point out a few examples of what is expected of men in this society, how it shapes certain issues and, in a variety of ways, leads to greater stress and difficulty.

Over the years, my Father became a much more gentle, decent, understand man - which is not to say he was a bad man to begin with. Just that a man who was once good, became great (to me). My Grandfather died when I was fairly young, but suffered a great deal throughout his life, in part, I believe, because of the things that are expected of men. Some of the more foolish notions that, overall, society, mass media and so on put into our heads.

I could write a great deal about both of them - and most of it would be good. I think you misunderstood the intent of my post.