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In reply to the discussion: A quick question for those that say Bernie can't win... [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)68. No, he describes himself as a Democratic Socialist. See
Reply 33 and http://www.democraticunderground.com/12806844
1) Virtually no one outside of very liberal circles or Vermont knows who he is.
Ah, the inability to use left or liberal without a modifier is always a tipoff. Lots of centrists watch MSNBC, where he has appeared many times, He's not run for national office bevfore. Now that he is, he is becoming known, so that problem will take care of itself as the campaign progresses. The good news is that, as people get to know him, they are very enthused about him
2) His own principles are going to make fundraising difficult,
Most see those things as huge pluses, meaning, having principles, sticking to them and keeping money out of politics to the extent practicable.
like it or not, elections are expensive.
True, but it has not yet been shown how expensive. A myth has been created that you have to match your opponents dollar for dollar or outspend them. That has never been proven. Yes, you have to get your name known, especially if you are running against someone with 91% name recognition AND billions to spend. But you may not need to saturate the airwaves with exactly as many annoying ads as your opponent. Besides, if Bernie becomes the Democratic nominee, he won't have the same problems raising money as he does as a primary challenger to Hillary.
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OMG they will thoroughly kick Hillary Rodham Clinton's butt. We need to do damage control right now!
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#59
I have a better chance of running through Hell In a gasoline suit than those ass clowns.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#61
I don't want to lose, therefore I don't want to run someone with so many negatives. Let's bail now!
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#64
According to a 2010 poll, 55% of likely voters believed Obama was a socialist and the country was
merrily
May 2015
#33
Umm, His polls, his socialism, his lack of appeal outside the Democratic base, his inability to
DanTex
May 2015
#45
I love to notice which parts of my posts a DUer ignores. Tells me a lot about whether
merrily
May 2015
#78
If we're being ageist, Hillary is all of six years younger. Big whoop.On other issues, see Reply 51.
merrily
May 2015
#62
not being ageist - just facing the reality of campaign issues that are likely to be used
DrDan
May 2015
#66
I doubt the six years between Bernie and Hillary is going to be a deciding factor for any voter who
merrily
May 2015
#69
Didn't say that, but it's as much an issue for Hillary. You keep ignoring that only 6 years divides
merrily
May 2015
#75
and I was just introducing one further campaign point to potentially be used against Bernie
DrDan
May 2015
#85
I think this notion doesn't account for a more populist America that I believe exists today,...
cascadiance
May 2015
#86
Don't worry about why people with incentive to say he can't win are saying he can't win.
merrily
May 2015
#102
I don't think anyone says that. The point is that underdog status isn't a disqualifier this early on
arcane1
May 2015
#32
But it isn't a comparison of Obama and Sanders. It's a comparison of yesterday's defeatists to
Marr
May 2015
#38
The unknown black guy with Saddam's middle name, whose last name rhymes w/Osama?
arcane1
May 2015
#31
I don't know who "they" are, but I was a strong Obama supporter at this time in 2007.
DanTex
May 2015
#41
Not to mention that he got black folks that hadn't voted in 20 years to not only vote but round up
Number23
May 2015
#50
I didn't make nor did I support the rules under which elections must be conducted.
MohRokTah
May 2015
#80
And President Romney along with Governor Fiorina are proof that money is what wins elections.
frylock
May 2015
#22
Me either. That map prompted Dems to start running as economic conservatives n/t
arcane1
May 2015
#37