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CK_John

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20. There are 30,000 Police force units and we are a republic and this must be handled

Reply to KeepItReal (Reply #10)

Thu May 28, 2015, 12:26 AM

May 2015

within the state codes, county government, city, town, or village units.

Our government is designed to be very hard to change anything

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We need 2 new laws in the United States of America: [View all] KeepItReal May 2015 OP

Man, seems like everybody likes to take public sector workers' pensions nowadays... Recursion May 2015 #1

I was thinking just that. Chan790 May 2015 #2

I'm very specific to cops. Don't go overboard looking for RW BS. KeepItReal May 2015 #4

You posted the "RW BS". Chan790 May 2015 #5

Deflection from my point that police need to have consequences for department misdeeds KeepItReal May 2015 #7

You're ignoring the two problems with it. Chan790 May 2015 #12

Again my point is to create a deterrent KeepItReal May 2015 #14

Your deterrent proposal is worse than useless if it's illegal. Chan790 May 2015 #16

Police *ARE* screened and trained already KeepItReal May 2015 #22

Agreed Sherman A1 May 2015 #27

That's the whole point. KeepItReal May 2015 #3

It feeds the lie that public pensions don't belong to the pensioners. They do. Recursion May 2015 #8

You keep generalizing. I'm being very specific to POLICE. KeepItReal May 2015 #10

Yes, you are that fortunate Recursion May 2015 #11

24 Years ago the cops beat the hell outta Rodney King on video and were aquitted KeepItReal May 2015 #18

Try using the concept of math... Oktober May 2015 #28

There are 30,000 Police force units and we are a republic and this must be handled CK_John May 2015 #20

His point is that the pensions belong to the pensioners, and NOT the department Scootaloo May 2015 #25

sounds like a strong disincentive to ever cooperate with any investigation fishwax May 2015 #6

What about it being more of a disincentive to mistreat citizens in the first place? KeepItReal May 2015 #9

I think it's more likely to work the way I said fishwax May 2015 #13

Pressure has to come from the TOP KeepItReal May 2015 #15

I agree that pressure from the top is a good thing fishwax May 2015 #17

I said POLICE PENSIONS. KeepItReal May 2015 #19

I know. I don't see going after police pensions as a way to bring pressure from the top fishwax May 2015 #21

Who do you think is the top in police circles? KeepItReal May 2015 #23

administrators, others in the legal system but outside of the police force (DA's) fishwax May 2015 #24

DA's ideally are the check and balance for police. But they don't act that way. KeepItReal May 2015 #26

Illegal, unethical and would immediately make things even worse.. Oktober May 2015 #29

The first one is problemattic as well el_bryanto May 2015 #30

Replace #2 with... Any police officer whose actions cause the department to settle a civil suit is Taitertots May 2015 #31

so one bad apple, everyone's pension is reduced . . . got it DrDan May 2015 #32

There must be perfection and zero faults... Oktober May 2015 #33