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Sancho

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3. Honestly, with a population less than most Fl or Ca counties and 3 electoral college votes...
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:59 AM
May 2015

Vermont doesn't matter. There are some other small parts of the US that are less diverse and also predicable; note that there are more Puerto Ricans in Florida or NY than the entire population of Vermont!

To win in 2016, the base for Democrats will have to include independent women, African Americans, and hispanics. The GOP is counting on white males, Christian conservatives, and low turnout.

As others have pointed out, the GOP base is aging and literally dying off. The hispanic share is growing, which is why the GOP will never have a path to citizenship. Interestingly, the GOP gerrymandering was aimed at a black-white divide, but that won't work over time with a growing immigrant population, so we'll see if state offices don't start falling to a changing population. For example, Allen Grayson may have benefited from an increasing group of immigrants in central Florida.

On CNN this am, there was a long discussion of Fiorina and Hillary in SC. As appealing to hard-core progressives as Bernie is (and I've listened to him for quite some time on Thom Hartman, etc.), he is not even on the radar for large blocks of voters in key purple states. If Bernie really wants to get traction, he needs to get out of small town New England. That may be why the national news still is barely giving Bernie lip service so far.

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Unfortunately, Vermont's often an outlier -- not very representative of the rest of the U.S. pnwmom May 2015 #1
Thanks for this. RufusTFirefly May 2015 #2
Honestly, with a population less than most Fl or Ca counties and 3 electoral college votes... Sancho May 2015 #3
actually, Vermont does matter cali May 2015 #4
As you point out, Vermont will vote Democratic for almost any candidate... Sancho May 2015 #9
We'll have to see whether Bernie's ideas can gain traction cali May 2015 #16
Vermont didn't completely ban slavery, children were still allowed to be slaves snooper2 May 2015 #24
Yeah, coming from a small state automatically disqualifies someone from winning the Presidency. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #6
No but watch Bernie's entire announcement... Sancho May 2015 #11
God forbid he should kick off awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #21
Who cares if he kicked off in Vermont?? Sancho May 2015 #22
Style over substance? awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #25
CA or NY doesn't matter either. At least in the general election. jeff47 May 2015 #17
We all know there are different ways to get to 270...meanwhile... Sancho May 2015 #18
If there are different ways, why are you claiming there is only one way? jeff47 May 2015 #19
Who is suggesting "one way"? Sancho May 2015 #20
"Size isn't everything" Unknown Beatle May 2015 #5
So Vermont is mostly white? romanic May 2015 #7
The hillarians new claim is that Sanders is a racist because he's from a small Doctor_J May 2015 #8
Wow ... Who has said, or even implied, that? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #12
You think the African American forum needs to go away JI7 May 2015 #23
I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here, so bear with me. Maedhros May 2015 #26
Vermont Robbins May 2015 #10
Yep...the US has changed a lot since 1992... Sancho May 2015 #13
How so? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #27
Demographics in Southern states for one thing... Sancho May 2015 #28
And you think Bernie doesn't appeal to these demographics? Why? Maedhros May 2015 #29
I watched his speech, and it differs dramatically from Hillary, Obama, or even Jeb... Sancho May 2015 #30
You're coming from a very conservative viewpoint. Maedhros May 2015 #31
haha...maybe you see it that way...but I'm about as liberal as you get.a 60's hippy. Union officer! Sancho May 2015 #32
You should know full well that a high-volume trade tax Maedhros May 2015 #33
Not true.. Sancho May 2015 #34
Noting that Vermont does not reflect the democraphics of the most of the US ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #14
there have been posts doing both and everyone is aware of that. cali May 2015 #15
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