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In reply to the discussion: What does it say that mild criticism of Bernie is met with great vengeance and furious anger? [View all]senz
(11,945 posts)144. Open your eyes, DanTex
DanTex opines,
"The argument for Bernie doesn't do so well in rational, nuanced world, which is to say, the real world."
Real world? Are you not aware that Bernie has about 20 times the government experience of HRC. He is tried and true, having won elections for Mayor, for U.S. House of Reps (numerous times) and for U.S. Senate.
He knows how government works, and he works well with others. He gets things done and makes friends, not enemies. Unlike Hillary, his ethics and honesty are right out there for all to see. Unlike Hillary, he can't be bought. Unlike Hillary, he doesn't pull strings behind the scenes to get what he wants. Unlike Hillary, he is not secretive.
Bernie Sanders has the qualities we need in a president.
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What does it say that mild criticism of Bernie is met with great vengeance and furious anger? [View all]
DanTex
May 2015
OP
and so can every other candidate, however, whoever our nominee is, it is far from a slam dunk
still_one
May 2015
#87
I've answered that question many times. I won't again in response to your straw man. Nt
stevenleser
May 2015
#243
I don't see any path to victory for Sanders in a national general election. eom
MohRokTah
May 2015
#210
Seems that some posters support for Obama in 2008 was based in Hillary hate.
boston bean
May 2015
#8
Yes, and oh the irony. Now Obama is practically the anti-Christ in their minds.
MoonRiver
May 2015
#12
I laugh every time I see one poster who absolutely hated Hillary and called her morally depraved
Autumn
May 2015
#86
I won't mention the name but I can send you a link to that post if you want it.
Autumn
May 2015
#107
i supported obama. i also had to call out misogyny toward clinton. so i hear ya. i stayed
seabeyond
May 2015
#112
pumas? i thought that was drama from the obama supporters. i was squarely in obamas camp.
seabeyond
May 2015
#142
yet, obama people used to attack clinton. those that still hate clinton are now using it as attack
seabeyond
May 2015
#153
no way. i was edwards, as were many then obama. never clinton. i didnt want another clinton.
seabeyond
May 2015
#161
ha. i was far from the only, which is the point. ya. that you will not even acknowledge that, from
seabeyond
May 2015
#167
you ignore a lot that happened in 2008. so ya. i do not take you seriously. i am allowed.
seabeyond
May 2015
#175
i was obama and really hated the whole puma thing, all the way around. i ignored it. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#193
To me that term means about as much as when the whacko right calls me a "libbrul."
DFW
May 2015
#187
Yep it's unreasonable for anybody to support someone who isn't married to corporate and wall-street
el_bryanto
May 2015
#5
After the great depression we put in regulation that worked really well for a long time
el_bryanto
May 2015
#103
obama implemented a weak version. now with repugs, has been lessened. this is where our govt
seabeyond
May 2015
#110
Indeed. One only needs to pay the mildest of attention to our natural world.
raouldukelives
May 2015
#155
It's not so much that any one person "wants to" but rather ideology drives them that way
Fumesucker
May 2015
#32
"They believe their fortresses are impregnable" because they are privatizing the military.
ieoeja
May 2015
#162
Or, you could just post the thing instead of obliquely referring to it in several places.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#212
I didn't even try to find it. Thanks for posting. Now I'll read it. nt
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#223
Interestingly, the fact that you accuse people of implying that Sanders is "racist" is part of what
DanTex
May 2015
#23
cali consistently changes peoples words to create her own argument. watch. i am a sander supporter
seabeyond
May 2015
#34
No one insinuated he is a racist- this is exactly why POC suggest LISTENING as step one in
bettyellen
May 2015
#177
What utter, unmitigated horseshit, completely unsupported by any specifics. Bernie was an
KingCharlemagne
May 2015
#11
When Democrats support warmed over moderate Republican policy and idealogy they should be criticized
LondonReign2
May 2015
#156
when posters change our dems to repugs, it is time for dems to say,... no. you do not get to do that
seabeyond
May 2015
#163
I would imagine that being a "democrat" kinda means you're gonna argue passionately for the issues
CTyankee
May 2015
#75
i want more from both obama and clinton, too. i want to hear more. i am disappointed more isnt
seabeyond
May 2015
#98
people use "lesser of two evils". i agree. that is bullshit. i disagree and call that shit out. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#164
I agree. When it dissolves into name calling and hurling insults against people, it's time to go
CTyankee
May 2015
#102
people are refusing the argument. OP's asking, what can we do. then a whole list of supporters
seabeyond
May 2015
#119
No, being a Democrat is a lot more than being able/willing to slug it out with other Democrats.
MoonRiver
May 2015
#114
My point is (and I'm sorry you missed it) that we are diverse in the way we think and we value the
CTyankee
May 2015
#129
I thought progressive democrats could both value dissenting views and remain true to our own values.
CTyankee
May 2015
#140
You said I should change parties. Just what party were you suggesting I should change to?
MoonRiver
May 2015
#152
I think DU has done a great job standing against republicans and republican ideals. nt
raouldukelives
May 2015
#171
It's obvious Skinner is more than a little unhappy at this turn of events.
stevenleser
May 2015
#204
It would be nice if they would reflect their candidate's character and integrity
BainsBane
May 2015
#50
The fact you lumped Hillary in with Republicans should answer your own question.
Exilednight
May 2015
#28
Hillary cannot win. Too much baggage. Too polarizing. Lacks the charisma of Bill & Barack.
peacebird
May 2015
#35
wrong. you do not get to make up false accusations. no one said that. cause YOU interpret it
seabeyond
May 2015
#48
i am glad you acknowledge that your statement "sanders is a racist" is bullshit. self delete the bs
seabeyond
May 2015
#49
YOU are making shit up. YOU are creating an argument that is NOT. YOU proudly are standing on a lie.
seabeyond
May 2015
#56
And what do you think is implied by "There weren't a lot of blacks in the audience"?
jeff47
May 2015
#59
people are flat out stating, ... his DEMOGRAPHICS are middle/upper middle, white, men. what he is
seabeyond
May 2015
#62
The thread in question based those demographics on the color of the skin in the crowd.
jeff47
May 2015
#66
facts. this discussion has been going on for 3 weeks on du. the dynamic of ones lives with the
seabeyond
May 2015
#89
we, and that includes you, have been having this conversation a good 3 weeks. if that alone, has to
seabeyond
May 2015
#123
Again, you are trying to have a different conversation. I'm talking about posts yesterday
jeff47
May 2015
#133
yes. people noticed the demographics in the crowd yesterday. we have talked about it for 3 weeks.
seabeyond
May 2015
#137
Wow, you talked about an event yesterday for 3 weeks? Can I borrow your time machine?
jeff47
May 2015
#166
whatever jeff. a glance, 'hillary spewing vile'. not reading all that has nothing to do with my post
seabeyond
May 2015
#169
I hope you enjoy discussing petunias on any subject you give a shit about. (nt)
jeff47
May 2015
#170
oh. btw, htis is what i was talking about 3 weeks ago. people, and minorities noticed sanders
seabeyond
May 2015
#138
Hillary fans carrying water for the same big money that took our country into a recession.
L0oniX
May 2015
#70
I am a fan of Bernie's and I don't hate Hillary. I voted for her in our CT primary back in 08.
CTyankee
May 2015
#135
Black people saying Sanders didn't address race enough is playing the race card?
leftofcool
May 2015
#71
"Bernie doesn't do so well in rational, nuanced world, which is to say, the real world"
L0oniX
May 2015
#68
Meh. I don't even criticize Bernie, and his screamers do their best to drive everyone away
ConservativeDemocrat
May 2015
#74
By every possible measure of electability. Polls, fundraising, campaign infrastructure,
DanTex
May 2015
#94
Well, I guess we disagree. But winning the White House is important to me, and I don't think
DanTex
May 2015
#109
addressing demographics, hence where he'll get votes, is swiftboating? i thought that was politics?
seabeyond
May 2015
#130
People are just buckling their seat belts for the predictable onslaught, financed by
raindaddy
May 2015
#85
At least it was nice to see a jury voted 7-0 to hide the post that called you a troll.
MohRokTah
May 2015
#124
"Bernie good, Hillary and Republicans evil." Thanks for that, DanTex. Short and sweet. n/t
jtuck004
May 2015
#104
what does it say that any alternative to Hillary is met with hyperbolic pearl clutching & lies?
TheSarcastinator
May 2015
#132
i totally agree it is too early to write sanders off. i replied to those, early on. i ignore that
seabeyond
May 2015
#179
SUBTEXT: Sanders supporters are irrational, and they live in a fantasy world..
frylock
May 2015
#249
Either Samuel Jackson, or monks working for King James II (of King James Bible fame)
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#233
You few that love making thread after thread playing 'politics' are amusing I will admit.
Rex
May 2015
#200
Well, I skipped the whole thread, except for the OP...and I don't think calling him a racist is a
libdem4life
May 2015
#202
I agree with you, but since nobody called him racist, that's a bit of a strange non-sequitor.
DanTex
May 2015
#203
Where have you been? It's all over DU...he didn't speak about black people so he's lost his creds
libdem4life
May 2015
#207
Says to me that maybe his fans are as terrified that he'll lose as they keep saying Hillary
Number23
May 2015
#228
You can criticize Bernie all you want...that's fine...but you're not entitled to special deference.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#232
Oh, please...Try mildly criticizing Greenwald, Snowden or Hersh on this forum
Blue_Tires
May 2015
#236