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Sancho

(9,204 posts)
20. Who is suggesting "one way"?
Thu May 28, 2015, 12:00 PM
May 2015

The black guy with a funny name gave great speeches, got air time, developed a war chest, and made the most of free opportunities in the media.

You have to admit that Bill Clinton and Obama both got attention for their lighthearted, yet serious speeches. They developed reputations that essentially snowballed and built momentum.

If Bernie can do something parallel, that great!! So far, there's not a hint that he's up to it. Hilary is not quite the speech maker that Bill was, but she doesn't have to compete with history; she only has to compete with whoever is running against her!!

Again, put Bernie's last speech against Hillary (as an example), pretend you are a clueless, independent who identifies with some group (college coed, immigrant family, minority, young parent, working woman, new union member, etc.). Just listen to a few clips of each, like five minutes in the middle. These people don't read opinion columns, care about Benghazi, or understand oligarchies.

There's your 10% or 20% winner in the swing states. Right now, I can't see Bernie winning over Hillary with the appearances I've seen so far. I'll vote for the Democrat, but I would prefer the Democrat wins. I'd really hate to see Jeb in the White House!

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Unfortunately, Vermont's often an outlier -- not very representative of the rest of the U.S. pnwmom May 2015 #1
Thanks for this. RufusTFirefly May 2015 #2
Honestly, with a population less than most Fl or Ca counties and 3 electoral college votes... Sancho May 2015 #3
actually, Vermont does matter cali May 2015 #4
As you point out, Vermont will vote Democratic for almost any candidate... Sancho May 2015 #9
We'll have to see whether Bernie's ideas can gain traction cali May 2015 #16
Vermont didn't completely ban slavery, children were still allowed to be slaves snooper2 May 2015 #24
Yeah, coming from a small state automatically disqualifies someone from winning the Presidency. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #6
No but watch Bernie's entire announcement... Sancho May 2015 #11
God forbid he should kick off awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #21
Who cares if he kicked off in Vermont?? Sancho May 2015 #22
Style over substance? awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #25
CA or NY doesn't matter either. At least in the general election. jeff47 May 2015 #17
We all know there are different ways to get to 270...meanwhile... Sancho May 2015 #18
If there are different ways, why are you claiming there is only one way? jeff47 May 2015 #19
Who is suggesting "one way"? Sancho May 2015 #20
"Size isn't everything" Unknown Beatle May 2015 #5
So Vermont is mostly white? romanic May 2015 #7
The hillarians new claim is that Sanders is a racist because he's from a small Doctor_J May 2015 #8
Wow ... Who has said, or even implied, that? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #12
You think the African American forum needs to go away JI7 May 2015 #23
I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here, so bear with me. Maedhros May 2015 #26
Vermont Robbins May 2015 #10
Yep...the US has changed a lot since 1992... Sancho May 2015 #13
How so? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #27
Demographics in Southern states for one thing... Sancho May 2015 #28
And you think Bernie doesn't appeal to these demographics? Why? Maedhros May 2015 #29
I watched his speech, and it differs dramatically from Hillary, Obama, or even Jeb... Sancho May 2015 #30
You're coming from a very conservative viewpoint. Maedhros May 2015 #31
haha...maybe you see it that way...but I'm about as liberal as you get.a 60's hippy. Union officer! Sancho May 2015 #32
You should know full well that a high-volume trade tax Maedhros May 2015 #33
Not true.. Sancho May 2015 #34
Noting that Vermont does not reflect the democraphics of the most of the US ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #14
there have been posts doing both and everyone is aware of that. cali May 2015 #15
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