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vaberella

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2. I think I get it.

Fri May 11, 2012, 06:48 AM

May 2012

Taking in consideration the government we have. And I am saying the Congress. I don't see them as pushing any form or even agreeing to allow a bill that allows marriage equality. I think with a progressive thinking congress we can get a repeal of DOMA. But even they may not be willing to force states to make the change.

I think even if the President pushed it would be shot down and destroyed before ever making it. The attention on DOMA is getting more air and I get the feeling Obama will get something from that next term. But a forced action by the federal government I think may not happen. Won't he need congressional approval to even do that?

If we leave it up the states. That allows the chance for at least some states to take a step forward in the right direction sooner, rather than later. Since Congress may not be able to help.

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If marriage is a civil right, how can our President leave it to the individual states? [View all] Bonobo May 2012 OP

du rec. nt xchrom May 2012 #1

I think I get it. vaberella May 2012 #2

Great if you spend the rest of your life in that state that recognizes you marriage HockeyMom May 2012 #5

I know. vaberella May 2012 #8

Bipartisanship? mmonk May 2012 #3

when ANYONE says "leave it to the states" they almost always mean "we'd lose at the federal level." unblock May 2012 #4

Stare Decisis HockeyMom May 2012 #12

that's true, but saying that it should be enforced through the courts cali May 2012 #6

It's the Constitution that did that, not the President. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #7

Exactly. Historically, it's been viewed as a power reserved to the states. pinboy3niner May 2012 #10

That decision already happened: Loving v. Virginia. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #11

You misunderstand his point. Skinner May 2012 #17

They don't need to. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #18

I agree. hack89 May 2012 #20

I don't understand your point. Skinner May 2012 #24

Congress has nothing to do with it. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #26

Ok, then. I agree. Skinner May 2012 #28

Religion should be taken out of marriage. LiberalFighter May 2012 #22

AMEN ! SoCalDem May 2012 #30

Maybe this is what he has to do... Zorra May 2012 #9

So we would have marriage equality but also military dictatorship? EFerrari May 2012 #27

Thanks. Yes, there is, however Zorra May 2012 #29

my two cents Ship of Fools May 2012 #13

Because, as the law now stands, it IS The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #14

Barney Frank... SidDithers May 2012 #15

Here is why: Because marriage has always been a state issue. Skinner May 2012 #16

I would think that the protection of civil rights would trump any claim that states have Bonobo May 2012 #19

Some day, the protection of civil rights WILL trump any claim that states have. Skinner May 2012 #23

Some federal laws are more about what states can't do loyalsister May 2012 #21

A minority, especially one like our LGBT minority Zorra May 2012 #25

I think the issue is two fold.......... mrmpa May 2012 #31