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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
33. We can still hope that this effort to boost Clinton by stifling debate will fail.
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:32 PM
May 2015

You say that "in 2016, there is a schedule." I hope that this proposal to cut debates by more than 75% doesn't get implemented.

You write, "The party leadership gets to decide how and when debates happen." The party leadership has never before even tried to exercise such a power. This cycle would be the first time, and the obvious reason is that the party leadership wants to help Clinton. Clear evidence of that is that the proposal is not only the party leadership grab that power for the first time, but that it then exercise it in a way that would benefit Clinton vis-a-vis the other candidates.

You write, "I find the notion that Candidate Clinton is so powerful that the whole of the Democratic Party Establishment will role over and wag their tail for her to be disgusting." I don't see what's disgusting about taking a realistic look at who has clout where. It's disgusting that ISIS is beheading people but to report that disgusting fact is to state the truth. In Democratic Party politics, I'll assert that Howard Dean was replaced as DNC Chair because Obama decided that he wanted Tim Kaine instead. The DNC then duly voted in accordance with Obama's wishes. Do you find that assertion disgusting?

In the present case, Clinton could say one of these things:
* "I'm not going to be restricted in exposing my ideas to the crucible of public debates. In 2008, when we had more than two dozen debates, I criticized Barack Obama for not debating even more, and I expect to receive and accept a comparable number of debate invitations this time. If that means the DNC bars me from a handful of debates it sanctions, so be it, I'll still be in many more debates than the six they're talking about."
* "I think this proposal is a bad idea. The DNC shouldn't try to decide when and how debates happen. If it does try to exercise such a power, it shouldn't use it to truncate the debate schedule by more than 75%."

If she said either of these things, the proposal would die, with or without tail-wagging.

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She should not even agree to woolldog May 2015 #1
She has debated before, I have confidence, I don't think she is scared of Bernie or any other Thinkingabout May 2015 #2
"But right now she is /still/ insulated and not meeting with people in public.???? Sancho May 2015 #3
Shhhh! zappaman May 2015 #9
If she had any courage or scruples, she would call for more than six debates. NYC_SKP May 2015 #4
This vitriol you hold cannot be good for you. onehandle May 2015 #6
Now now...Don't you worry about me, I'll be fine. NYC_SKP May 2015 #8
Might want to bring this up with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #14
I have, through my delegates. nt NYC_SKP May 2015 #16
Then you have petitioned the right person. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #18
Of course candidates make the call. Jim Lane May 2015 #20
Again, Clinton does not set the debate schedule, just as Obama did not set the Schedule in 2008. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #22
The whole point is that in 2008 there was no "the" Schedule Jim Lane May 2015 #24
But in 2016, there is a schedule. If this were 2008, Obama wold be running for the first time. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #25
We can still hope that this effort to boost Clinton by stifling debate will fail. Jim Lane May 2015 #33
"She is weak and frightened" NCTraveler May 2015 #30
Sexist accusation fail. Big time. NYC_SKP May 2015 #32
What bullshit. She's been meeting with voters for many weeks in several states. onehandle May 2015 #5
The public... not private events... eloydude May 2015 #7
I see. You're not oblivious. You're lying. onehandle May 2015 #10
Watch this video from today.... Sancho May 2015 #11
They are definitely not public LordGlenconner May 2015 #15
And the public events are attended by actors, hand selected "regular folks". NYC_SKP May 2015 #17
The real test for Bernie is becoming a "real" Democrat leftofcool May 2015 #12
He is a real Democrats eloydude May 2015 #21
There will be no ducking the tough questions in the debates. AtomicKitten May 2015 #13
After the debate KinMd May 2015 #19
And us O'Malley supporters will say O'Malley won. FSogol May 2015 #23
She's a very good debater BeyondGeography May 2015 #26
Actually it is the real test for any candidate, but it also isn't do or die still_one May 2015 #27
Bernie is gaining fadedrose May 2015 #28
this early in the game to complain that she isn't accessible enough is just dumb Sheepshank May 2015 #29
I strongly agree with your thesis rock May 2015 #31
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