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JoePhilly

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37. I do not need to make converts for Hillary. She's very well known and admired.

Thu May 28, 2015, 03:26 PM

May 2015

Which is why most Democrats already believe she'd beat any Republican. They believed it to be true in 2008, and they believe it now.

It is YOU have who needs to convert people away from Hillary, and over to Bernie, in the primary. Or not. Its completely up to you.

The first issue those people will care about when they "weight the facts" and compare the candidates will be "Which one WILL ABSOLUTELY ensure that the GOP does not take the White House."

That is the top priority, because a candidate's positions on every other issue are MOOT if they lose the general.

And so, I do not need to convince any one to "switch" to Hillary. I'd happily vote for her. And if Bernie were to win the primary, I'd happily vote for him.

It is Bernie's supporters who will need to do the convincing if they intend on winning the primary.

This is a straight-forward math problem.

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Bernie, it won't be good enough until [View all] whatchamacallit May 2015 OP

He can't speak sincerely about race and gender, etc? gollygee May 2015 #1

I have one question. When he talks about economic and environmental issue etc. is there a jwirr May 2015 #18

I'm white so I can't say for sure gollygee May 2015 #20

That is true. I guess I already knew his stand on the issues from both a poc and a woman's point of jwirr May 2015 #22

I expect they will too gollygee May 2015 #25

Hillary isn't going to win PoC when they are reminded of her racist 2008 campaign. ieoeja May 2015 #34

Have they forgotten? gollygee May 2015 #35

If they haven't forgotten, then they don't care about Black voter suppression. ieoeja May 2015 #36

I can't believe any people of color don't care about black voter suppression gollygee May 2015 #38

Did you forget the sarcasm smilie or upaloopa May 2015 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever May 2015 #8

pandering? to minorities and their voice? wow. nt seabeyond May 2015 #3

It flew so far over your head it struck a passing 747. BeanMusical May 2015 #75

If you gave Hillary one second of your time. NCTraveler May 2015 #4

Talking about economics = sincere, talking about racism = pandering. gollygee May 2015 #7

I agree with you one hundred percent. NCTraveler May 2015 #10

Do you have the ability to call out the whatchamacallit May 2015 #11

"reprehensible OP that inspired this one?" NCTraveler May 2015 #16

+1. nt seabeyond May 2015 #12

considering... kenfrequed May 2015 #76

Yes BrotherIvan May 2015 #78

Whatever gets him elected is more important right now gollygee May 2015 #83

He is speaking honestly BrotherIvan May 2015 #84

Tone deafness,thy name is a Sanders supporter on DU. nt sufrommich May 2015 #5

We prefer to let his record speak for him, but we will call bullshit when it's warranted. NYC_SKP May 2015 #9

They think insulting Hillary along with the people who would happily voter for her ... JoePhilly May 2015 #13

fug, i am even a sander supporter but have been declared a traitor. they go way beyond seabeyond May 2015 #14

Inspiring like this? whatchamacallit May 2015 #15

I could post 100 or so counter examples of Sanders supporters, attacking hillary, no? JoePhilly May 2015 #19

Such a silly notion whatchamacallit May 2015 #21

Actually, she already has lots and lots of voters all lined up. JoePhilly May 2015 #23

Does JoePhilly honestly believe whatchamacallit May 2015 #27

I do not need to make converts for Hillary. She's very well known and admired. JoePhilly May 2015 #37

Again, only the candidate can win people over whatchamacallit May 2015 #39

I did not say you needed to be nice. JoePhilly May 2015 #40

Lol whatchamacallit May 2015 #41

So the folks writing OPs here are NOT trying to influence opinion. ah, Ok. JoePhilly May 2015 #42

A math problem that won't be solved by anything said in here whatchamacallit May 2015 #43

He said, shaking his fist in impotent rage. JoePhilly May 2015 #44

That's right, which makes all your blather about my "not helping Bernie" pointless whatchamacallit May 2015 #45

like Obama did in 2008 JI7 May 2015 #28

Exactly correct. JoePhilly May 2015 #32

You're being very kind by calling it "tone deafness" but you nailed it nonetheless Number23 May 2015 #67

The criticism of him is really undeserved and unfortunate. He fought his entire life: NYC_SKP May 2015 #6

Until he's sipping wine in a dimly lit, five-star restaurant, peecoolyour May 2015 #17

And that is why we need to defeat the republicans in 2016. Agschmid May 2015 #26

2/10/NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #24

Pay lip service to the social justice of minorities??? giftedgirl77 May 2015 #29

seem to think it's a big fuckin joke. seabeyond May 2015 #30

Nope, got it loud & clear. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #46

It's people's lives gollygee May 2015 #31

Thank you & like I've said in the AA forum... giftedgirl77 May 2015 #48

Listen up whatchamacallit May 2015 #33

Your OP states... giftedgirl77 May 2015 #47

I'm not making light of anything whatchamacallit May 2015 #49

Alert Results.... FTR I'm not a sock, just a pissed off minority member. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #50

a member of DU's ever shrinking number of minority members screaming to be heard seabeyond May 2015 #53

All day long whatchamacallit May 2015 #55

no. i will listen, while you alert. you really hsould be the one listening. nt seabeyond May 2015 #56

Um... whatchamacallit May 2015 #59

I wish someone would explain what was aggressive & abusive about my post. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #64

because I'm a female minority speaking my mind bluntly & to the point? seabeyond May 2015 #65

Maybe it had something to do with referring to me as a whatchamacallit May 2015 #69

I wasn't referring to you, assholes was plural. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #70

Word Salad whatchamacallit May 2015 #72

No, just trying to explain to you. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #73

Cool story, bro! whatchamacallit May 2015 #74

Are you aware that among those members, it is not all rah-rah Hillary, right? Bonobo May 2015 #80

no, they are not monolithic. and yes, clinton has 87% of african american support. fluidity seabeyond May 2015 #87

Please proceed #7, you won't find many better records on race or anything else but what record you TheKentuckian May 2015 #62

... Number23 May 2015 #68

Say it loud, say it proud. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #71

Manny, one of your socks is out and loose!!1! Jackpine Radical May 2015 #51

Simply making an effort to be inclusive and diverse is "pandering" now? KittyWampus May 2015 #52

Only if it's insincere whatchamacallit May 2015 #57

+1 BrotherIvan May 2015 #79

He needs to bring forth concrete policy proposals! Warren DeMontague May 2015 #54

Too late! He was supposed to address every issue yesterday! Doctor_J May 2015 #58

No kidding whatchamacallit May 2015 #60

K&R woo me with science May 2015 #61

Hillary can't compete with Bernie in the economic policy arena. Maedhros May 2015 #63

Seems to be the deal whatchamacallit May 2015 #66

You have Clinton supporters all over this thread BrotherIvan May 2015 #77

This hard working white person finds the ever shifting agendas around here Hillarious Fumesucker May 2015 #81

I don't know that it's been level headed BrotherIvan May 2015 #85

And yachts. beam me up scottie May 2015 #82

No no! BrotherIvan May 2015 #86