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MH1

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16. His behavior NOW with regards to this incident is unacceptable.
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:51 AM
May 2012

Either he is telling the truth when he says he doesn't remember the incident, or he is lying. Let's examine this:

* He really doesn't remember it. REALLY? How f*cking callous can a person be, that they don't remember an incident where they assaulted another person? At no point in his young adult life (before it became a 40+ years old incident) did it occur to him that he really behaved as a shit, and felt bad about it? An incident like this was so insignificant to him that he just casually forgot all about it as he went on with his life?? (I actually think this is possible. And it blows my mind to think that people would still consider this man fit to be president.)

* He's lying when he says he remembers it. If so, that's just pathetic. How does the political calculation work that comes out with it being better to pretend he's just so callous that he doesn't even remember his own awful behavior?

In any case, he should either be outraged if it couldn't possibly be true ... but that doesn't seem likely, since there's 5 people independently recalling the incident, and he's accepting that it happened even if he doesn't recall the incident. So, he needs to make a heartfelt speech about bullying, how he did awful things when he was in high school, he deeply regrets his ignorance and attitudes of that time, which of course (so he'll say) have completely changed as he's grown and matured. He needs to address the scourge of bullying and the harm it does to the individuals concerned and our society at large. He needs to address this issue in a big way, and somehow figure out how to make it seem authentic (when authenticity is one of his weakest points). Anything less, says that he doesn't own up to his behavior, doesn't recognize the magnitude of harm, and/or still just doesn't give a shit. I'm willing to bet that all 3 are true regardless, but as a semi-competent politician he ought to at least try to fake it.

With all the understanding we now have as a society about the harms of bullying, for Romney to try to just dodge this and sweep it under the rug as "that was so long ago" shows a contemporary callousness to the people who are dealing with this issue today. And that's just unacceptable. And it's NOW, not 40 years ago.

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Yep. Most people didn't assault other kids when they were young NYC Liberal May 2012 #1
Seems I Was Wrong liberalmike27 May 2012 #37
not acceptable bigtree May 2012 #2
it was NEVER widely accepted to pick on those less defenseless- cali May 2012 #3
you're making a point that most folks would agree with bigtree May 2012 #8
++ Voice for Peace May 2012 #38
also, I think the way the republican party as painted themselves... Javaman May 2012 #40
I've been joking that it was acceptable only to set up Bolo Boffin May 2012 #4
I usually give a person the benefit of the doubt. A Simple Game May 2012 #27
It was not acceptable in my suburban high school (1967-1970). In fact, livetohike May 2012 #5
If it was run-of-the-mill acceptable behavior alcibiades_mystery May 2012 #6
goddamm right! ibegurpard May 2012 #43
Could you imagine sandyshoes17 May 2012 #7
The only way I can explain it is that there is a lot of projecting going on. HereSince1628 May 2012 #9
I'm just as tired of the equivocations... GoCubsGo May 2012 #10
Any other kid would have been expelled from school. sufrommich May 2012 #11
I'm not so sure bigtree May 2012 #13
What Mitt did wasn't bullying alone,it sufrommich May 2012 #48
It wasn't any more acceptable then than it is now. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #12
I agree and have been surprised by some here who act as though it was acceptable back then NNN0LHI May 2012 #14
I'm not sure "thoughtless, cruel bully" quite covers the depth and breadth of it, honestly Spider Jerusalem May 2012 #15
His behavior NOW with regards to this incident is unacceptable. MH1 May 2012 #16
that's the heart of it I think bigtree May 2012 #18
count on nitt to take a pass on that SemperEadem May 2012 #33
he'd have to respect the folks at the point of the bullying bigtree May 2012 #34
That behavior has never been acceptable. MineralMan May 2012 #17
He should have been kicked out of school C_U_L8R May 2012 #19
"Has anyone grilled the school about this??" - they should. MH1 May 2012 #20
Buried deep in the original WP story were some chilling lines: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #31
My Dad is about Romney's age, and I asked him this very thing obamanut2012 May 2012 #21
"Acceptable" is probably not the right word gratuitous May 2012 #22
School Bullying is Epidemic and Turning Deadly - ABC News Life Long Dem May 2012 #23
Thank you. Chorophyll May 2012 #24
You are correct. slackmaster May 2012 #25
Even in my time (and I'm a geezer) this would not be tolerated TrogL May 2012 #26
STILL IS THIS WAY IN CERTAIN AREAS HowHasItComeToThis May 2012 #28
Wow varelse May 2012 #29
are you aware that Quantess May 2012 #30
Yes varelse May 2012 #41
Orson Scott Card, Idiot and Bigot: Hissyspit May 2012 #42
My small town was full of bullies... Kalidurga May 2012 #32
Remember, something being acceptable and no one doing anything about it... Javaman May 2012 #35
yep... the apologists for this were working overtime SemperEadem May 2012 #36
Romney is also hard-wired to believe colorado_ufo May 2012 #39
This business about Aspies lacking empathy is nonsense. eridani May 2012 #46
I can't see anyone but a bully saying that kind of behavior was ever acceptable. Incitatus May 2012 #44
Not acceptable..... bighughdiehl May 2012 #45
I went to cali May 2012 #49
A tweet from CNN's own Erick Erickson: Bolo Boffin May 2012 #47
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