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Sancho

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32. haha...maybe you see it that way...but I'm about as liberal as you get.a 60's hippy. Union officer!
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:12 PM
May 2015

but I've lived in SC, GA, and Fl for a long time. I met Nixon (as VP) in Charleston in the 60's, Carter and GWB in the 70s, and worked for Richard Riley in the 80's. Recently, Charlie Chris. I've been politically active a long time. I worked to get the 18 year old vote, get us out of Vietnam, and get special education in the schools. Never stopped doing what I could.

I know what voters here seem to vote for...especially the majority who are "independent", but generally liberal thinking people.

Lots of union member teachers and nurses want to protect their retirements. They like protecting SS, but also depend on large investment funds. Taxing transactions is a step backward. I get it. They don't want retirement to "go away" like it did in Detroit, so they don't want any tax (that would only increase) on transactions. Bernie should pay for college, but do it with capital gains or some other way.

Immigration is the number one issue in Florida, Texas, and California. Three of the four largest states! 10-15 million people undocumented - most with some of the family documented and some living "illegally". These are often very liberal voters, and would be solid Democrats if they could become citizens.

Coed women here know Hillary, but mostly haven't heard about Bernie. As they enter the work force, they really want equal pay. Remember that GA and FL never ratified the ERA in the 70's. Women here have not forgotten.

I've listened to Bernie on Thom Hartman for a long time. He's fine on Wall Street, protecting SS, and many issues, but he's not in step with most of the main ideas for the progressives in the South. At least he doesn't express their concerns. They want social justice as a whole, but Bernie's message needs to improve to win voters down here.

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Unfortunately, Vermont's often an outlier -- not very representative of the rest of the U.S. pnwmom May 2015 #1
Thanks for this. RufusTFirefly May 2015 #2
Honestly, with a population less than most Fl or Ca counties and 3 electoral college votes... Sancho May 2015 #3
actually, Vermont does matter cali May 2015 #4
As you point out, Vermont will vote Democratic for almost any candidate... Sancho May 2015 #9
We'll have to see whether Bernie's ideas can gain traction cali May 2015 #16
Vermont didn't completely ban slavery, children were still allowed to be slaves snooper2 May 2015 #24
Yeah, coming from a small state automatically disqualifies someone from winning the Presidency. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #6
No but watch Bernie's entire announcement... Sancho May 2015 #11
God forbid he should kick off awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #21
Who cares if he kicked off in Vermont?? Sancho May 2015 #22
Style over substance? awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #25
CA or NY doesn't matter either. At least in the general election. jeff47 May 2015 #17
We all know there are different ways to get to 270...meanwhile... Sancho May 2015 #18
If there are different ways, why are you claiming there is only one way? jeff47 May 2015 #19
Who is suggesting "one way"? Sancho May 2015 #20
"Size isn't everything" Unknown Beatle May 2015 #5
So Vermont is mostly white? romanic May 2015 #7
The hillarians new claim is that Sanders is a racist because he's from a small Doctor_J May 2015 #8
Wow ... Who has said, or even implied, that? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #12
You think the African American forum needs to go away JI7 May 2015 #23
I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here, so bear with me. Maedhros May 2015 #26
Vermont Robbins May 2015 #10
Yep...the US has changed a lot since 1992... Sancho May 2015 #13
How so? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #27
Demographics in Southern states for one thing... Sancho May 2015 #28
And you think Bernie doesn't appeal to these demographics? Why? Maedhros May 2015 #29
I watched his speech, and it differs dramatically from Hillary, Obama, or even Jeb... Sancho May 2015 #30
You're coming from a very conservative viewpoint. Maedhros May 2015 #31
haha...maybe you see it that way...but I'm about as liberal as you get.a 60's hippy. Union officer! Sancho May 2015 #32
You should know full well that a high-volume trade tax Maedhros May 2015 #33
Not true.. Sancho May 2015 #34
Noting that Vermont does not reflect the democraphics of the most of the US ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #14
there have been posts doing both and everyone is aware of that. cali May 2015 #15
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