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LiberalFighter

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22. Religion should be taken out of marriage.
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:54 AM
May 2012

It is the government that has made marriage a factor of life and it is the government that should determine the implementation. The government should take religion out of the business of marriage by requiring all ceremonies to be performed by a approved government official. Anyone that wishes to receive the benefits and rights of marriage recognized by the government would need to have a civil marriage and only a civil marriage would be recognized. A religious marriage would not be. Religious ceremonies can still be performed but would not be recognized by the government.

It is the government that decides the age that couples need to be. It is the government that decides what medical tests they need. It is the government that documents the event. It is the government that documents when they are divorced or anything that is the result of the marriage.

The only thing that religion should be allowed to do is within their own walls that pertains to the practice of religion. They don't get to violate building codes when they build a church or a school for their kids. They don't get to avoid paying any fees for the use of any government facility.

Marriages was not something that was considered necessary during the first 100 years or so in the US. Many would just live together until one tired of the other. Usually it was the man that left. That was one of the factors that resulted in marriage being implemented by the government. They were considering the impact on the community supporting abandoned women and children.

Probably as late as the early 1900's marriages weren't always recorded by the government in the US.

Just as the states has an interest in marriages the federal government does too and probably more so.

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du rec. nt xchrom May 2012 #1
I think I get it. vaberella May 2012 #2
Great if you spend the rest of your life in that state that recognizes you marriage HockeyMom May 2012 #5
I know. vaberella May 2012 #8
Bipartisanship? mmonk May 2012 #3
when ANYONE says "leave it to the states" they almost always mean "we'd lose at the federal level." unblock May 2012 #4
Stare Decisis HockeyMom May 2012 #12
that's true, but saying that it should be enforced through the courts cali May 2012 #6
It's the Constitution that did that, not the President. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #7
Exactly. Historically, it's been viewed as a power reserved to the states. pinboy3niner May 2012 #10
That decision already happened: Loving v. Virginia. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #11
You misunderstand his point. Skinner May 2012 #17
They don't need to. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #18
I agree. hack89 May 2012 #20
I don't understand your point. Skinner May 2012 #24
Congress has nothing to do with it. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #26
Ok, then. I agree. Skinner May 2012 #28
Religion should be taken out of marriage. LiberalFighter May 2012 #22
AMEN ! SoCalDem May 2012 #30
Maybe this is what he has to do... Zorra May 2012 #9
So we would have marriage equality but also military dictatorship? EFerrari May 2012 #27
Thanks. Yes, there is, however Zorra May 2012 #29
my two cents Ship of Fools May 2012 #13
Because, as the law now stands, it IS The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #14
Barney Frank... SidDithers May 2012 #15
Here is why: Because marriage has always been a state issue. Skinner May 2012 #16
I would think that the protection of civil rights would trump any claim that states have Bonobo May 2012 #19
Some day, the protection of civil rights WILL trump any claim that states have. Skinner May 2012 #23
Some federal laws are more about what states can't do loyalsister May 2012 #21
A minority, especially one like our LGBT minority Zorra May 2012 #25
I think the issue is two fold.......... mrmpa May 2012 #31
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