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jeff47

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36. First you have to get people to recognize privilege exists

Fri May 29, 2015, 10:21 AM

May 2015

The wealth privilege in the cartoon doesn't require someone to be "bad". Both sets of parents would love to shower their kid with resources. Both are good parents. Only one can pull it off.

Race privilege requires someone to be bad. We don't like to think of ourselves or the people we know as "bad". That generates resistance when you're trying to introduce the concept privilege to people who don't see it.

Starting with one, non-accusatory and easy-to-show privilege is a way to get the foot in the door about the overall concept. Once you've got them listening to the overall concept, you can start adding multiplicative privilege effects later.

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This Comic Will Forever Change the Way you Look at Privilege [View all] ehrnst May 2015 OP

K & R. n/t FSogol May 2015 #1

This is great, thanks! DawgHouse May 2015 #2

K&R nt N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #3

. . . . and the people who NEED to read this will be saying "But . . . . " HughBeaumont May 2015 #4

Nobody ever handed me anything on a plate.. mountain grammy May 2015 #5

In America . . . . HughBeaumont May 2015 #8

Wow, you've said it all! As true today as 5 years ago mountain grammy May 2015 #35

Outstanding! n/t ejbr May 2015 #6

Very good comic. nt el_bryanto May 2015 #7

Seems like those are issues of economic classes and not privilege. aikoaiko May 2015 #9

Yes and no.... daleanime May 2015 #10

Wealth is one kind of privilege gollygee May 2015 #13

Precisely why I don't think this particular is helpful Ms. Toad May 2015 #26

Be sure to give away your wealth phil89 May 2015 #83

I do give a lot of money to charity gollygee May 2015 #85

^ yes indeed. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #89

There is not one kind of privilege. There are several. jeff47 May 2015 #27

I do understand the multiplicity of privilege, but I guess my point is that most ... aikoaiko May 2015 #46

It's still a privilege. jeff47 May 2015 #51

right handed people live longer Lordquinton May 2015 #100

The difference is not nearly as large as wealthy vs poor or black vs white. (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #104

no it's not Lordquinton May 2015 #105

just saw this video on youtube Lordquinton Jun 2015 #106

Economic classes are also created from various sorts of privilege. cui bono May 2015 #63

But it simplifies it so white people of the middle class and up treestar May 2015 #78

K&R nt myrna minx May 2015 #11

Title is wrong, didn't change a thing about how I think of it.... daleanime May 2015 #12

I think that the intended audience is those that don't see privilege as such a divider. ehrnst May 2015 #30

That's our economic system in a nutshell d_legendary1 May 2015 #14

wealthy people have always had easier lives. lousy example Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #15

That's exactly what privilege means gollygee May 2015 #16

parents using the fruits of their labor to help their child do well is a priviledge that need to be Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #38

Is that all you see there? gollygee May 2015 #41

what i see here in this example is cherry picking, assumptions and extrapolations Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #62

"i dont believe that schools give completely different levels of education" tkmorris May 2015 #66

demonstrably? Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #67

Google and read. gollygee May 2015 #77

well im waiting for tkmorris to give me the demonstrable info. Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #82

There is more to it than the curriculum gollygee May 2015 #84

And you can continue to do so tkmorris May 2015 #92

oh ok i thought b/c you said demonstrable that you had that Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #95

Larger class sizes absolutely lead to burned out teachers gollygee May 2015 #76

You are sadly misinformed as to the state of education. Divernan May 2015 #102

...... daleanime May 2015 #50

Did you read the last cartoon on the left? Do you read what comes from your keyboard? jtuck004 May 2015 #54

it's that self made man crap Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #64

Exactly. There is no such thing. People work hard, and some are lucky enough to make a jtuck004 May 2015 #65

says it all heaven05 May 2015 #17

Add to the general unfairness the fact that one emergency can wipe you out if you're poor. DamnYankeeInHouston May 2015 #18

I think no one really disputes this. The million dollar question which causes the ideological divide redgreenandblue May 2015 #19

I don't know if it's best to look at it as a competition gollygee May 2015 #22

Precisely, and none of that Ms. Toad May 2015 #31

The cartoon is from New Zealand gollygee May 2015 #32

Ideas that are already recognized by a significant portion of the population Ms. Toad May 2015 #71

In your opinion gollygee May 2015 #74

First you have to get people to recognize privilege exists jeff47 May 2015 #36

With Respect Rilgin May 2015 #69

I really don't care if we call it frobbizblorgen. jeff47 May 2015 #79

We do not disagree on substance Rilgin May 2015 #94

But it puts the bulk of the population in the unprivileged class Ms. Toad May 2015 #70

The bulk of the population is in the unprivileged class. jeff47 May 2015 #73

I think for the majority of people it isn't an ideological issue. jeff47 May 2015 #34

It may be that one side *approves* of class/economic based privilege, but isn't honest about it. nt Romulox May 2015 #43

K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2015 #20

The comic was all well and good but Omnith May 2015 #21

The first step towards change is making people aware there is a problem. ehrnst May 2015 #28

The problem is too complex Saviolo May 2015 #29

I see your point. Omnith May 2015 #56

I agree Saviolo May 2015 #59

kick Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #23

Wow, that was great. K&R demmiblue May 2015 #24

Interesting: the author/artist is from New Zealand thesquanderer May 2015 #25

K&R!!! napkinz May 2015 #33

Great post. Thank you. NT AikidoSoul May 2015 #37

K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2015 #39

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #40

DU is awash in defenders of class based privilege and the economic status quo. Romulox May 2015 #42

One reason... Saviolo May 2015 #52

Spot on, Romulox. n/t geardaddy May 2015 #55

+ The Dude and his still-present Toad Swarm. Octafish May 2015 #72

I, and many others in post WWII era, were children of the middle class packman May 2015 #44

I was in college in the early 70's. Jerry442 May 2015 #53

N/T AuntPatsy May 2015 #45

Nails it. Kicked and Recommended. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #47

Fantastic!!!! Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #48

K&R n/ t Dalai_1 May 2015 #49

This just scratches the surface, Baitball Blogger May 2015 #57

OUTSTANDING! calimary May 2015 #58

kicking this one hard SCantiGOP May 2015 #60

K&R nt stage left May 2015 #61

Neoliberal policy not only supports but exacerbates the problem BrotherIvan May 2015 #68

Yes! TM99 May 2015 #101

Warmongers know you don't need educated cannon fodder. Divernan May 2015 #103

It's good. nt treestar May 2015 #75

YES! kenfrequed May 2015 #80

Excellent! Warpy May 2015 #81

wasnt potus' life like paula's? Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #86

N = 1. Let's focus on what happens to 99.999% of the people Taitertots May 2015 #91

K&R! Sherman A1 May 2015 #87

The rich kid is just as likely to become the poor kid's landlord..... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #88

K&R Angry Dragon May 2015 #90

K&R. JDPriestly May 2015 #93

Great comic. Oakenshield May 2015 #96

Poignant. SoapBox May 2015 #97

K&R Paka May 2015 #98

Doesn't Flatpicker May 2015 #99