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Laura PourMeADrink

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66. John Edwards. You might come up with someone else - but I can not think

Fri May 29, 2015, 11:12 PM

May 2015

of a single person in my life time who took such a steep fall from grace as he did. Almost VP to persona non-grata. Haven't heard anything about him in ages. My guy was Bill Richardson - and think he would make an excellent VP choice if HRC wins. Hispanic vote. Check.

I think I became a realist..oh about 6 months - to a year after Obama won. It hit me....this is not the person I manufactured in my head when he won. He is not the left wing ideologue I dreamed he would be. He chose the moderate, realistic course instead.

How cool you were a delegate for Obama ! I was Jesse Jackson's delegation whip in 1988 - my claim to fame. haha. I did get to witness everyone booing Bill Clinton for talking too long though. It is still extremely cool to be at a convention - no matter what though, huh.

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Dissing Hillary taking it's toll ? [View all] Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 OP

And? the race was always going to be close. hrmjustin May 2015 #1

I don't know anyone who said it would be close Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #3

I did. i think a third Democratic term is going to be hard no matter who it is. hrmjustin May 2015 #7

+1 daleanime May 2015 #41

Which explains why TPA/TPP is about jobs. yallerdawg May 2015 #59

They don't even care about their jobs.... daleanime May 2015 #65

But the closer it is, the easier it is to steal. calimary May 2015 #4

We must be vigilant. hrmjustin May 2015 #8

totally agree. I have often wondered why they didn't steal it in 2008 and 2012. why Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #55

Looks ridiculous if R wins every time. TheFarseer May 2015 #70

Remember the hissyfit Karl Rove threw in 2012... sheshe2 May 2015 #76

This is why Bernie will do so well RobertEarl May 2015 #2

what's funny is that my repuke inlaws LOVED Hillary (when Obama was Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #6

You left out her nat'l polling numbers against Bush lll and Walker DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #13

That we agree on. daleanime May 2015 #43

+100000 Bernie will draw votes across party lines woo me with science May 2015 #18

For me, woo RobertEarl May 2015 #61

What evidence do you have to support this? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #81

Bookmarked as requested! zappaman May 2015 #20

What a wonderful world! EOM tiredtoo May 2015 #35

Maybe.. but I think the enthusiasm will grow. I am already feeling it. DCBob May 2015 #5

Really? fadedrose May 2015 #9

Yes. DCBob May 2015 #19

I am a older woman voter, Paka May 2015 #52

Then you get both with Hillary. DCBob May 2015 #54

That well may be true. Paka May 2015 #75

Hope you are right DCB What a shame it would be to let this once in a lifetime event Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #14

Once in a lifetime? How so? Will there be no more elections, and I've not heard the news? n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #24

cute. meant first one - is once in a lifetime. Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #58

She is indeed the most qualified candidate ever for POTUS. DCBob May 2015 #40

Hmmm...what if its Hillary v Fiorina? Thats the possible match-up that would have me most worried... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #16

There is no way in hell Fiorino could win, is there? I think the person I fear most Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #22

The RW media (Drudge et al) is starting to slowly pump Fiorino. Joe the Revelator May 2015 #29

Yes but how could anyone compare the two resumes and say "Damn...CF is so Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #47

Maybe but she's cold and all business.. I dont think she connects with the average Joette. DCBob May 2015 #26

Alot of people would say the same thing about Hillary.nt Joe the Revelator May 2015 #31

If you have ever heard Fiorina speak you would know what I mean. DCBob May 2015 #33

I actually have not caught her speaking yet, just read a lot about her. Maybe thats why... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #38

She speaks well.. no doubt about that but seems she cant shake sounding like a CEO. DCBob May 2015 #51

Not a chance she gets the nomination, much less wins the general. nt onehandle May 2015 #44

Why not? Serious question. From what I've READ she seems interesting if i was on that side of Joe the Revelator May 2015 #49

Bad personality. Laid off 30,000 people. Ruined a classic American company. onehandle May 2015 #50

What kind of balls she must have, huh. To think, I ruined a company and hell, I think Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #72

Fiorina will not be the republican nominee Scootaloo May 2015 #84

it didn't work out that way in 2008. Scootaloo May 2015 #82

Well.. there was the Obama factor in 2008. DCBob May 2015 #86

Describe for me the "Obama Factor." Scootaloo May 2015 #87

Where you living under a rock back then?? DCBob May 2015 #89

No, I wanted a description of what you were talking about Scootaloo May 2015 #90

The fact is she almost won despite a candidate of a lifetime opponent. DCBob May 2015 #92

Two things... Scootaloo May 2015 #97

If not for the caucus states she would have won. DCBob May 2015 #98

Real Clear Politics favored Romney by several percentage points in 2012. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #10

Not in the least. She's our next president. Bank on it. 6000eliot May 2015 #11

The heart wants what it wants...and Hillary has always been polarizing within the party... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #12

If she's polarizing within my party one pole is a hell of a lot bigger than the other DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #21

wow. 85%? wonder what it is here? 15%? nt Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #23

Probably less...DU is not a proxy for the Democratic party... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #28

I'm waiting for the first Bernie vs these guys polls. Then you will see. stevenleser May 2015 #15

We already have an inkling... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #25

Yep, that is about the amount I expected. He does 25 points or so worse than she does against stevenleser May 2015 #27

CA hasn't been in play since 1988./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #32

Right, not since St. Ronnie who was a prior governor there. stevenleser May 2015 #34

Bush Pere carried it in 88 but if I remember correctly it was reasonably close. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #39

I dunno, I think O'Malley might present a challenge. zappaman May 2015 #45

Biden is Plan B but I seriously doubt HRC implodes. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #46

I have always thought embracing your predecessor is the path of least resistance - unless Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #53

The challenge is it is very rare and hard for one party to hold the White House three terms... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #56

what about when you factor in the other party holding the house and senate? Although Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #62

I don't know how you factor that in. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #64

yes, and she mentioned that the other day ..." I know what the demands Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #68

But...there's probably less than zero chance HRC won't win our nomination. And Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #36

For many Bernie folks here, what you just said is offensive. Of course its true, but as you said stevenleser May 2015 #42

I meant no offense at all. I have been there before - supported someone Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #57

Barack Obama was sui generis. We made history. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48

I'm not a Hillary supporter at this time. herding cats May 2015 #17

Good points HC (hmmm, interesting initials). Maybe that's what's wrong - I Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #30

I can totally relate. herding cats May 2015 #60

John Edwards. You might come up with someone else - but I can not think Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #66

I was only at the state convention. herding cats May 2015 #69

So true about focusing on the house and senate ! But - when we had everyone Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #71

The GOP doesnt want to run against Hillary, they are hoping for someone else. Thinkingabout May 2015 #37

Laura, did you see the numbers on Hillary vs Sanders? DCBob May 2015 #63

Wow. Gotta give them credit for trying, huh. Do you ever remember Laura PourMeADrink May 2015 #67

Julian Castro! sheshe2 May 2015 #79

Yes, indeed. I think the only things they could go after with him is his age and his ultra-left libdem4life May 2015 #99

It's not about us "dissing" Hillary daredtowork May 2015 #73

Do you know any other Democrats who is beating his or her presumptive GOP opponents by 4-18 points? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #77

then what's the OP worried about? nt daredtowork May 2015 #78

I don't know about worry but concern is always good. It wards off hubris and overconfidence. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #80

this thread is going to the trash can. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #74

Vote for Bernie. He is doing better right now against ALL of them and people are only sabrina 1 May 2015 #83

Can you please provide the data to support your assertion? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #93

Crap! You mean she hasn't wrapped up the nomination and there's only a year until the convention? Warren DeMontague May 2015 #85

Laura, thanks for the poll fadedrose May 2015 #88

Can you please provide some data to support your assertion? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #94

The link in Laura's OP shows HC's standing fadedrose May 2015 #95

After I read your OP a couple of times I saw the whimsical nature of it. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #96

That's why the GOP circulates these claims BainsBane May 2015 #91