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Fri May 11, 2012, 11:10 AM

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BREAKING: Obama endorses STATES RIGHTS [View all] rapturedbyrobots May 2012 OP

This issue is a civil rights issue. If you left it up to states and people blacks would still be southernyankeebelle May 2012 #1

There's no"if" to your concern, 30 some odd states have voted Lionessa May 2012 #9

He doesn't have to mention what if anything he would do about it. That wasn't the purpose. FarLeftFist May 2012 #13

baby steps, just baby steps. What can he do? You got a house with republicans. It won't go southernyankeebelle May 2012 #33

Agreed. nt. AverageJoe90 May 2012 #49

I am glad you are happy with baby steps dbackjon May 2012 #81

I wish you could too. I can't make it come any faster and if I could I'd snap my fingers and it southernyankeebelle May 2012 #85

His statement wasn't about legislation, it was about a sitting president admitting to FarLeftFist May 2012 #2

+1 DearAbby May 2012 #3

Yeah, if you want legislation than make it happen. He said Yes WE Can, not Yes I Can. FarLeftFist May 2012 #5

Me and many others will be happy rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #18

File under: "Nothing is ever good enough" FSogol May 2012 #4

When the issue is civil rights rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #19

He Did Affirm Those RIghts ProfessorGAC May 2012 #29

Actually, he affirmed the validity of Amendment One rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #38

I Understand It Completely ProfessorGAC May 2012 #73

So you then are supportive of Amendment One? dbackjon May 2012 #83

No, he said leave it up to the states dbackjon May 2012 #82

I've said it before...... TLM May 2012 #50

I need an aspirin bluestateguy May 2012 #6

Barney Frank... SidDithers May 2012 #7

Racially based discrimination based on states rights rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #20

So civil rights are a state level contract? TLM May 2012 #52

Here: ProSense May 2012 #8

The way this can be fixed is: The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #10

The Defense of Marriage Act is federal legislation on marriage Eric J in MN May 2012 #12

And it's not being enforced by thte DoJ. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #14

The DOJ is refusing to defend DOMA in lawsuits over federal benefits and federal taxes. Eric J in MN May 2012 #16

On 1 - what is the "correct" federal position on first cousins, 16 year olds and "common law"? jberryhill May 2012 #21

No argument from me. Of course that's a huge problem The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #35

DOMA is being enforced. It's not being defended by the Obama Administration in court. morningfog May 2012 #64

you've gotta do it through the courts because as it stands legislation would never, ever pass... dionysus May 2012 #68

Yes, I remember when Dick Cheney signed the DADT repeal and stopped enforcing DOMA because emulatorloo May 2012 #11

DOMA is still enforced. morningfog May 2012 #65

Feb 23, 2011: "President Obama Instructs Justice Department to Stop Defending DOMA" emulatorloo May 2012 #74

It is still in effect and enforced. DOMA is still currently good law. morningfog May 2012 #79

Great, are you going to fight to get Obama a ruling majority progressive ? uponit7771 May 2012 #15

NO rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #17

Oh Brother ProfessorGAC May 2012 #30

+ 1 It was a very telling response. emulatorloo May 2012 #40

let me suggest you read Prism's excellent OP which addresses this. cali May 2012 #22

would love to rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #23

Link here: emulatorloo May 2012 #26

Thanks for opening up the discussion rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #31

You're correct, it's not a defense of a constitutional right Prism May 2012 #62

I can respect that. rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #63

100% agreed Prism May 2012 #71

Am I the only one to notice how 'tricky' this states rights thing is..... wandy May 2012 #24

Abortion and Racial Equality were states rights issues until Supreme Court intervened. emulatorloo May 2012 #25

I hope that issue doesn't come before the current Supreme Court. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #39

Meanwhile, Romney will campaign on a constitutional ban on all marriage equality Bolo Boffin May 2012 #27

what romney does or doesn't do isn't the issue rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #28

Au contraire, it's at the heart of this issue. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #32

Obama has not taken a stand rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #34

Yes, he has and you won't change that by copying and pasting your answers Bolo Boffin May 2012 #36

I just want people to be honest about what he did and didn't say rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #41

Well, then, let's be honest about everything Barack Obama has done for the LGBT community Bolo Boffin May 2012 #45

OK rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #47

I am sick and tired of anybody trying to tell me that the President has handed me lemons Bolo Boffin May 2012 #51

Well said... SidDithers May 2012 #55

That's fine for you rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #56

Yes, NC, the day after Amendment One passed, the President endorsed marriage equality. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #57

That's just it rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #61

bravo! excellent post! dionysus May 2012 #69

If I could rec your post, I would. emulatorloo May 2012 #75

This is my first post, because it seemed too important for me to stay quiet.. dadchef May 2012 #58

And welcome to DU Swede May 2012 #77

My pleasure to have the an safe port in the violent storm.. dadchef May 2012 #78

The ball is rolling now ecstatic May 2012 #37

I expected him to say what matters rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #43

Reid: Democratic party platform will include pro-gay marriage plank emulatorloo May 2012 #46

That's what's up n/t rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #48

Do states have the right to dictate religous beliefs? LiberalFighter May 2012 #42

No rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #44

My daughter is a medical marijuana patient here in CA so yay for states rights!! K8-EEE May 2012 #53

Without state rights, no state at all would have gay marriage. VT and MA got the ball rolling. Mass May 2012 #54

Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2012 #59

I don't see why states need these amendments treestar May 2012 #60

It is to pre-empt courts, exercise bigotry, intimidate and morningfog May 2012 #66

Legislative bullying. randome May 2012 #70

It's a beginning SteveG May 2012 #67

It's a legitimate criticism and I thought it diminished the annoucement somewhat, BUT Hippo_Tron May 2012 #72

Good post. BTW, Cheney talking point appears to have originated with log cabin republicans emulatorloo May 2012 #76

...as defined by the constitution bhikkhu May 2012 #80

don't care ibegurpard May 2012 #84