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pugetres

(507 posts)
14. I was torn until I investigated...
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:52 AM
May 2015

Last edited Sat May 30, 2015, 04:11 AM - Edit history (1)

I worked during my senior year in HS and was paid student wages (around $2.50/hr? I don't remember). But, the job was for the experience and I also received credit hours for school along with the tiny paycheck. No nights, no weekends, out of school by lunch time everyday (I already had more than enough credits to graduate with an honor cord) and again, a tiny paycheck. It was good.

I went to Missouri's website this evening to see if they still have student wages. This is what I found:

-Missouri Under 20 Minimum Wage - $4.25 - Federal law allows any employer in Missouri to pay a new employee who is under 20 years of age a training wage of $4.25 per hour for the first 90 days of employment.

-Missouri Student Minimum Wage - $6.50 - Full-time high school or college students who work part-time may be paid 85% of the Missouri minimum wage (as little as $6.50 per hour) for up to 20 hours of work at certain employers.

If there is no benefit to the teen or to the student, then it is an out-right abuse to make a person work for less due to their age or current enrollment in school. A full-time 20 yr old college student can be paid less for the same work than the part-time 20 yr old college student? Legally? Can that 20 year old full time student cut back their school hours and demand minimum wage?

And, the Under 20 wage law is also open to abuse. I know this from an incident working at a unionized grocery store. Contract negotiations were ongoing with lots of you gimme this, I'll give you that. A fax from the union was given to me, a cash room clerk. One of the things that the union was pushing for was an increase in the starting base pay. Over the years minimum wage had risen enough so that the union pay was only 25 cents more per hour. The union knew it made them look bad. But, they had a suggestion for Kroger:

Increase that base pay. New hires should be paid state minimum wage. Only if they make it through the 90-day probationary period will they receive the new higher wage. The union then explained that cost-wise it was cheaper to hire, train, and fire before the 90 day period was up.

This is bull crap. Those effing crooks won't be happy until this nation brings back indentured servitude.

EDIT: I went back to the MO state website and noted that the older verbiage was "Under 18 Minimum Wage". It was 18. Now it is 20. At what age do you think they will stop?

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everyone who works should make a living wage mike_c May 2015 #1
Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #2
If they apply to Majors, aspirant May 2015 #3
Yah we call those "Adults" typically... Agschmid May 2015 #4
I know many adults aspirant May 2015 #7
Everyone has their moments. Agschmid May 2015 #8
Of course. The narrative is that teens work shitty jobs Cal Carpenter May 2015 #5
If they don't then managers interested in cheaper labor costs JonLP24 May 2015 #6
Sure. A minimum wage isn't just about the worker who gets it Recursion May 2015 #9
Hell yes. hunter May 2015 #10
Yup, agree. Agschmid May 2015 #11
A job is a job Warpy May 2015 #12
You're a student and 16 years old. Igel May 2015 #18
You bring up many interesting points. Snobblevitch May 2015 #19
I have seen exactly what you write of. TexasMommaWithAHat May 2015 #21
Interesting points. Agschmid May 2015 #23
If their parents were being paid, they wouldn't have to work so damn hard Warpy May 2015 #24
Thank you! TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #27
I wish all parents could read your message. TexasMommaWithAHat May 2015 #28
I also worked and in not sure what benefit it had. Agschmid May 2015 #29
I worked 6 hours a week during my senior year TexasMommaWithAHat May 2015 #30
Should women be paid the same? SheilaT May 2015 #13
Yes...and you reminded me of something. Chan790 May 2015 #25
I was torn until I investigated... pugetres May 2015 #14
As a teenager, I made more than the minimum wage working for myself cutting grass. My dad used to Ghost in the Machine May 2015 #15
Why would we want to give employers ... surrealAmerican May 2015 #16
Yes (nt) bigwillq May 2015 #17
People assume minors are working for fun money gollygee May 2015 #20
Absolutely. Iggo May 2015 #22
Yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
I am sure somebody said this already DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #31
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