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davidpdx

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87. Ok, without getting too teary this is the best post I've seen this week

Sat May 30, 2015, 02:40 AM

May 2015

maybe even this month. I remember your posts from back in 2008 when I was a newbie (I had lurked before that for awhile). It is very interesting to get your perspective on things, maybe more so because I agree with you. I haven't decided for sure, but lean toward Sanders.

The comment you made toward the end about someone asking another person why so many people hate the Democratic Party stood out because I have seen those types of posts and they are ugly. You are right about there being a deep division within the party and that is not a good sign.

I personally feel disengaged at this point compared to 2007. The choice then was easy for me. Being overseas doesn't help (I was home during the summer of 2007 and did quite a bit then, which felt great). In a way I feel hopeless because the field is not as diverse this time and it seems like the race is leaning hard one way. Of course in 2008 we did it against the odds, but I question whether lightening will strike twice.

The positive nature of the entire thread is amazing and I hope it stays that way.

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Been through some rough primary wars here. To me now, though, this one is different. [View all] madfloridian May 2015 OP

One thing you posted nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #1

Yes. madfloridian May 2015 #24

k&R marym625 May 2015 #2

"questioning of who is included as meaningful" madfloridian May 2015 #3

yep marym625 May 2015 #4

I find it sad too MissDeeds May 2015 #22

Well said marym625 May 2015 #36

Nice post Mad. I agree this primary is different. I think it is because it seemed at first sabrina 1 May 2015 #5

Yes, you are right in this paragraph. madfloridian May 2015 #6

It would prove that WE are not just 'whining' about the corrosive effect of money sabrina 1 May 2015 #7

Actually agree about paying little attention... madfloridian May 2015 #8

I guess that's what I was trying to say. I felt as you described in your OP sabrina 1 May 2015 #10

For me Bernie is the phoenix of the Democratic party rising from the corruption of corporate money. L0oniX May 2015 #46

..... madfloridian May 2015 #47

I, too, believe this is key: JDPriestly May 2015 #11

Bernie is the test imo, of all of us who rail against CU and the destruction of our electoral system sabrina 1 May 2015 #13

I also think he might appeal to some of the less fire breathing tea bagger types. CrispyQ May 2015 #71

your last paragraph says it all, mad... antigop May 2015 #9

Very interesting ibegurpard May 2015 #12

Bernie reminds us aspirant May 2015 #14

...and to hear someone speak passionately and sincerely Art_from_Ark May 2015 #15

Amen. 840high May 2015 #27

Hear Hear! NYC_SKP May 2015 #67

I don't hate the party. That's crazy talk. Enthusiast May 2015 #16

I agree completely MissDeeds May 2015 #21

+1000 marym625 May 2015 #37

That is it in a nutshell. hifiguy May 2015 #69

+1000. Exactly right. GoneFishin May 2015 #77

I always value Mad what you have to say. TM99 May 2015 #17

That was a very well thought out post. Thanks for the link. madfloridian May 2015 #34

Sanders winning would be pretty revolutionary gollygee May 2015 #18

HRC's supporters are forgetting how it was back in 2007 - truedelphi May 2015 #42

He won because of the votes of people of color and women gollygee May 2015 #44

Interesting article on how Obama fared within various demographic grooups truedelphi May 2015 #89

I think.... sendero May 2015 #19

+++1000 LuvNewcastle May 2015 #20

^^ this ^^ nt bunnies May 2015 #29

Yes, cynical is a good word to use. madfloridian May 2015 #35

Blammo! hifiguy May 2015 #41

Yep. +1000 GoneFishin May 2015 #78

Until Bernie I wasn't going to bother with this election other than to cast a vote for whomever. Autumn May 2015 #23

You are right. Let's embrace that box they put us in. madfloridian May 2015 #33

It was shocking to me to find so few Democrats stood for Democratic ideals as well. raouldukelives May 2015 #25

This may be a bit OT, But fredamae May 2015 #26

........ madfloridian May 2015 #31

damn straight we were marym625 May 2015 #38

yep. DirtyHippyBastard May 2015 #82

K&R JEB May 2015 #28

The way I think of it Madfloridian TBF May 2015 #30

You're right. I hope the change comes peacefully as well. No sane person wants PatrickforO May 2015 #49

Bernie is putting words to what so many people TBF May 2015 #52

To put it more bluntly: madfloridian May 2015 #32

+1000 marym625 May 2015 #39

The problem is that party is gone. nt TBF May 2015 #45

You know, I forgot in my long rant below to PatrickforO May 2015 #51

What they have done to education in the name of "reform"... madfloridian May 2015 #55

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #40

V n/t L0oniX May 2015 #43

As to hating the Democratic Party, I don't. I just hate what it has become. PatrickforO May 2015 #48

^ This could stand alone as an OP. TBF May 2015 #53

I believe the quote goes: ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS. Ford_Prefect May 2015 #50

...! KoKo May 2015 #76

It won't matter at all Jackpine Radical May 2015 #54

Agree as usual jopacaco May 2015 #56

I was a moderator... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #57

Were you here in 2003/2004? madfloridian May 2015 #58

I was lurking at the time... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #59

lol would you believe I just noticed your user name? madfloridian May 2015 #60

I think I officially joined in 05 awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #62

I think the Iraq invasion was a turning point for many .... madfloridian May 2015 #63

Yep, here is my latest results awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #64

Very well said. Thank you. totodeinhere May 2015 #61

K & R !!!! Thespian2 May 2015 #65

That's a 10 star post! SoapBox May 2015 #66

one major difference is having an Independent run for the Democratic nomination carolinayellowdog May 2015 #68

This says it all in my mind... madfloridian May 2015 #70

Bernie is Independent Mnpaul May 2015 #72

I think you are right about most of the Sanders supporters being early Obama supporters davidpdx May 2015 #86

Your post really resonates with me. Avalux May 2015 #73

Thank You..."MF" KoKo May 2015 #74

As usual KoKo madfloridian May 2015 #75

DU attracts a wide range of progressives, including some who do hate the Democratic party pnwmom May 2015 #79

Great post madfloridian! You expressed a lot of how I feel. neverforget May 2015 #80

To me it's shaping up just the way it was with Howard Dean Caspian Morgan May 2015 #81

Bottom line, we were considered "fringe" then. Now it's like we are overstepping.... madfloridian May 2015 #90

Thanks, mad. Well said. russspeakeasy May 2015 #83

Actually, it was Democrats hating Democrats.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #84

I have been saying for many months that many of my Republican "friends" on FB are quite silvershadow May 2015 #85

Ok, without getting too teary this is the best post I've seen this week davidpdx May 2015 #87

This time is different... joshcryer May 2015 #88