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In reply to the discussion: If you want to know what social justice is without economic justice... [View all]joshcryer
(62,536 posts)The proposed comparison treats each group separately, which is ignoring the social and cultural disparities that still exist.
You can literally see cultural segregation in the geographic racial maps: http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html
Redlining is very real, and it is a wholly social issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
"Yeah, you can have your cheap rent, but you gotta live in this area over here."
"Yeah, you can get benefits, but you have to live in a certain zip code, otherwise you're clearly too affluent to get benefits."
Here's a fascinating and long read about how the elites (see: white people, who, again, make 12x more than black people) do it: http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/10/east-of-palo-altos-eden/
I've seen it said before that we should follow white Europe's example as far as economics, but then you see the rise of far right wing nationalism (fascism) in Europe over immigrants and non-whites, and it becomes to me a very dangerous argument. Yes the economic structure is good, but it must be tempered with strong social and cultural diversity standards if it's going to work.
The fucked up thing is that we're going to get a basic income regardless as automation begins to take over. Everyone's going to be covered. But we'll still have this very real racial and ethnic segregation going on. If we don't attempt to fix it the problems won't just resolve themselves because everyone is getting a basic income.
(Now, of course, not a single candidate has mentioned this issue of automation, but I assume they'd look crazy if they did, but you have to know policy wonks are sitting around talking about it. Brookings recently posted a study about how automation is the reason for the lackluster recovery, for example. A concept Larry Summers and the Third Way can't even wrap their heads around.)