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bigwillq

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89. Meh.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:44 AM

May 2015

Cartoons often offend. I don't think it's a very good cartoon, but I can't get upset or feel offended by it.

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Sexist Cartoon Depiction of Hillary Clinton Published by McClatchy's Sacramento Bee [View all] boston bean May 2015 OP

*shudder* Oktober May 2015 #1

curious to know what your one word response enclosed in *'s means? boston bean May 2015 #11

The *s indicate action... Oktober May 2015 #155

It's an old thing from IRC, it means you're describing an action rather than "speaking" Recursion May 2015 #180

Enclosing a word or phrase in asterisks signals emphasid when italics are not available or tblue37 May 2015 #182

that cartoon is malfunction. KittyWampus May 2015 #2

UGH! MoonRiver May 2015 #3

my reaction as well. boston bean May 2015 #4

Very insulting of Sanders as well. MoonRiver May 2015 #6

finally something to bring Sanders and Hillary supporters together. KittyWampus May 2015 #8

Odd but true! MoonRiver May 2015 #44

No Kidding! Aerows May 2015 #138

Yes, hafta agree. Insulting sexist clap-trap with regard to both candidates. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #107

Absolutely awful Aerows May 2015 #135

Wow workinclasszero May 2015 #5

ya. and our resident anti feminists mock or defend or... what? clueless? nt seabeyond May 2015 #20

IKR? workinclasszero May 2015 #26

sad... our mature adult woman democratic candidate. sexism? where? what? nt seabeyond May 2015 #32

What the actual fuck? cyberswede May 2015 #7

Exactly. Cha May 2015 #159

Liberal media workinclasszero May 2015 #9

When did it become shameful for women to wear skirts? TreasonousBastard May 2015 #10

I know... images chopping off womens heads and showing only their body parts boston bean May 2015 #12

I'm in my 50's and never even clued into that tactic of minimizing women KittyWampus May 2015 #16

Maybe because it's not a tactic for minimizing women, but... TreasonousBastard May 2015 #27

sure. all the women are just faux outraged and making up crotch shots and upskirt. all in our seabeyond May 2015 #35

The guys who take upskirt photo's of uknowing women are empowering us, doncha know?? LOL boston bean May 2015 #39

ya.. and their right, like the artist says, all his board 'guys' thought it just fine. nt seabeyond May 2015 #43

Apparently, you have no idea what upskirt really means... TreasonousBastard May 2015 #55

right says the dude. tis empowering. seabeyond May 2015 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jun 2015 #193

Yeah if you are two ismnotwasm May 2015 #97

oooops, dropped my pencil. ya. thats it. seabeyond May 2015 #99

Pfft ismnotwasm May 2015 #112

Did you wear the manly scrubs or the cute little nurses skirt outfit? boston bean May 2015 #114

Bahahahaha! ismnotwasm May 2015 #126

pffft, is right. nt seabeyond May 2015 #116

Obviously some men feel threatened by women who object to geek tragedy May 2015 #179

So fucking sick of the MRA crowd here. JTFrog May 2015 #191

crotch shot ... lol Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #194

Maybe you should open your mind to the concerns of others. cyberswede May 2015 #75

awww,mean old feminists oppressing you manly men again? nt geek tragedy May 2015 #178

Sometimes the things in plain sight and so common are more difficult boston bean May 2015 #30

It's hard to "unsee" once you see it and it's everywhere. nt sufrommich May 2015 #80

Try again? workinclasszero May 2015 #15

It implies that sex is the only power women wield. MoonRiver May 2015 #56

Totally agree /nt workinclasszero May 2015 #61

perfect. "sex is the only power women wield". nt seabeyond May 2015 #63

This, exactly. Thank you! bettyellen May 2015 #74

Well said! ismnotwasm May 2015 #113

ya, cause crotch shots, and upskirts is ALL the rage. we get it. seabeyond May 2015 #17

It's so empowering...LOL.... and making the men around us look small.... boston bean May 2015 #19

fuggers, ... and calif too. hey, if you hear any outrage, or updates on this, let me know. seabeyond May 2015 #25

A crotch shot is depicting her as powerful? What bullshit. bettyellen May 2015 #24

ya know. when men are telling women how "empowering" it is to strip for them, who would be surprised seabeyond May 2015 #28

Exactly. But the supposed cluelessness is informative. yardwork May 2015 #104

I think the pearl necklace was also sexually degrading her. boston bean May 2015 #168

You are associating gender with skirts & pearls. Demit May 2015 #77

That isn't even a good try. yardwork May 2015 #100

Because women only matter from the neck down Lisa D May 2015 #13

Disgraceful! hrmjustin May 2015 #14

Stupid. Cha May 2015 #18

Beside the obvious reducing HC to a pair of legs, I don't get it whatchamacallit May 2015 #21

and upskirt image, with Sanders pondering how to get her to "move left"... boston bean May 2015 #23

Huh... Well it's a multiple fail then whatchamacallit May 2015 #31

One look and I recognized the sexism in about 1 split second. nt boston bean May 2015 #36

I'm sure you did. That doesn't mean it's actually there, it Marr May 2015 #51

and the cutsey little upskirt included in picture? my friend that is always on womens side. nt seabeyond May 2015 #53

Your contention is that he's trying to depict Hillary Clinton in a sexually titillating way? Marr May 2015 #65

please, do, leave it alone. seabeyond May 2015 #68

So artist could have portrayed her as a giant… in the background, with her head. KittyWampus May 2015 #103

I agree - and I'm not surprised to see this out of San Diego - TBF May 2015 #125

Sacramento is over 500 miles away from San Diego.. frylock May 2015 #133

Oh I'm sorry - TBF May 2015 #165

hey, no worries, and I agree about the comic.. frylock May 2015 #176

unless you are a woman. then it is clear and fuckin fast, as the legs are bigger, forefront in seabeyond May 2015 #37

I don't think it's as difficult to see as you imply. /nt yardwork May 2015 #106

Maybe I'm slow whatchamacallit May 2015 #118

Yeah, meaning moving her leg left, which would open the crotch up. MoonRiver May 2015 #70

how much little boy giggling while he came up with/drawing this load of bile. nt seabeyond May 2015 #73

Exactly! MoonRiver May 2015 #76

It depicts 'the uphill battle' that Bernie will have to 'move Hillary to the left.' onehandle May 2015 #29

Take a few more minutes... LOL boston bean May 2015 #33

At first glance I thought she was sitting in a chair much closer to the camera. onehandle May 2015 #42

That's what I thought too whatchamacallit May 2015 #50

Ah... whatchamacallit May 2015 #34

ya, big and powerful with a crotch shot. move over a tad to the left, woman.... nt seabeyond May 2015 #38

Also, moving her to the left pushes her off the sofa entirely. Demit May 2015 #81

Move her closer to him, not physically move her to the left off the couch. boston bean May 2015 #82

No, moving her to the left in space. Her left. Demit May 2015 #87

Really, it's pretty obvious that it was meant to move her closer to him, what some refer to him boston bean May 2015 #88

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #148

I thought of that too. onehandle May 2015 #83

Move her closer to him, not to the left off the couch... boston bean May 2015 #84

he was too busy giggling at the upskirt he was drawing. thinking how clever he was. nt seabeyond May 2015 #85

I think the cartoonist was going for emasculating workinclasszero May 2015 #40

Two tiny male figures... boston bean May 2015 #48

Yup Bernie is the small male and Bill the tiny male workinclasszero May 2015 #54

fuckin insulting sanders, like he is a blithering idiot. nt seabeyond May 2015 #60

Right workinclasszero May 2015 #64

I think the intent was to make Hillary appear to be emasculating.. boston bean May 2015 #72

Like the SNL sketch with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. Boomerproud May 2015 #174

yup. but then, with economic equality, .... meh. just another example seabeyond May 2015 #175

Wow, I didn't see the pic of Bill awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #147

It's a pretty stupid cartoon Art_from_Ark May 2015 #59

the cartoonist is saying that hillary is a huge force to be reckoned with and bernie is not (at Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #195

I got it after several folks hipped me to it whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #196

so, they are just gonna boldly go there. and those dems that want another, meh.... wha? nt seabeyond May 2015 #22

Rex Babin used to be the Bee's cartoonist. Buzz Clik May 2015 #41

Ohman is the current president of the "Association of American Editorial Cartoonists" boston bean May 2015 #47

I wonder if the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists is having buyer's remorse? Buzz Clik May 2015 #49

thank you for this info. and fuck the whiney little privilege ass. nt seabeyond May 2015 #52

Anyone have a link to that petition? workinclasszero May 2015 #69

Oh, brother. Really...? Marr May 2015 #45

couldnt have done it with upper body? needed a skirt, crotch shot and upskirt to accomplish that? ya seabeyond May 2015 #57

Let me tell you a story. Marr May 2015 #78

no. i have no interest in your stories. seabeyond May 2015 #79

I'm curious whatchamacallit May 2015 #86

:D Marr May 2015 #156

Clever whatchamacallit May 2015 #158

Thanks-- keep your head up. :D Marr May 2015 #161

Insulting. nt peecoolyour May 2015 #46

It is sexist, but that's the price of free speech. Exilednight May 2015 #62

ha. damn good thing you are exclusively about sanders economic justice, and do not have to worry seabeyond May 2015 #66

Do the people who criticize have free speech to criticize it? boston bean May 2015 #67

free speech to yell for his ass to be fired. nt seabeyond May 2015 #71

Meh. bigwillq May 2015 #89

Maybe if you were a woman, like me, who's been sexually harassed since age 13 MoonRiver May 2015 #90

his dismissal was purposely to get that reaction from you. makes them feel all... oh, manly? nt seabeyond May 2015 #91

Yeah, so manly to sexually harass young woman. MoonRiver May 2015 #92

that is the reason men harass our girls. all about puffing that chest. their masculinity is seabeyond May 2015 #94

Sexist, racist, homophobic bigwillq May 2015 #95

meh... i just stated my thoughts seabeyond May 2015 #96

Why is Bernie Sanders in there, and what's the deal with moving left? IronLionZion May 2015 #93

I immediately thought of Basic Instinct Prism May 2015 #98

Yeah, right? snort May 2015 #102

That's what I thought too Prism mcar May 2015 #108

Thank you. So did I. nt scarletwoman May 2015 #111

Yep- the evil woman waiting to move her leg left to dazzle you with the money shot. bettyellen May 2015 #151

Basic Instinct. JTFrog May 2015 #160

Exactly Prism May 2015 #162

Yep- the move left..... Points right to her knees which are posed exactly like Sharon Stone. bettyellen May 2015 #166

he drew it showing she is already starting to lift the leg to move to left, so we can wait for it... seabeyond May 2015 #167

This is sleaze. snort May 2015 #101

To all those poo-pooing the notion that this cartoon is sexist, answer me this: scarletwoman May 2015 #105

It's obviously sexist whether or not HRC wears pantsuits or not Major Nikon May 2015 #109

Obviously, he watches a lot of FOX "News".... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #110

To qualify as "upskirt", underwear or the crotch area must be visible, Nye Bevan May 2015 #115

What are the lines in her crotch area? treestar May 2015 #120

certainly up the skirt. guess it does not meet mens porn until they literally get the crotch. seabeyond May 2015 #123

OK, so this is an upskirt porno image of Barbara Walters? Nye Bevan May 2015 #124

two different angles. one higher and down. one lower and... wait for it.... seabeyond May 2015 #127

OK I give up. Nye Bevan May 2015 #128

Not the same. Can't see the tops of panty hose treestar May 2015 #140

Yeah at most it is tops of panty hose maybe? treestar May 2015 #139

And if she moves her leg "to the left"? KittyWampus May 2015 #145

And if the Sanders cartoon character stood up and stripped off his suit? Marr May 2015 #163

except there is the CARTOON CAPTION about moving left. Comprehension fail. KittyWampus May 2015 #170

Lots of contortion... thanks for keeping it real! boston bean May 2015 #171

What are those red things on the couch next to Hill? jomin41 May 2015 #117

couch pillows treestar May 2015 #121

Meh. Too clever by half. Igel May 2015 #119

She's hogging the couch jomin41 May 2015 #122

Yeah, secondvariety May 2015 #134

I Know the Artist HassleCat May 2015 #129

if he had not put so much effort looking up the skirt, seabeyond May 2015 #131

"...some readers would have thought he was trying to depict Bill Clinton" No, that's ridiculous. scarletwoman May 2015 #143

Agreed HassleCat May 2015 #144

Jack Ohman needs a new career........... that is all. Ernesto May 2015 #130

Wow. Totally sexist. TDale313 May 2015 #132

Strange Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #136

I have followed Jack Ohman's work for years. He is not a sexist. Throd May 2015 #137

so dismissive, of course, silly women. bet the artist is JUST as dismissive. why actually reflect? seabeyond May 2015 #141

Father of two young daughters. Throd May 2015 #154

You seem to be under a common misconception. boston bean May 2015 #169

Another common misconception: KitSileya May 2015 #187

+1, and teaching their daughters their role to play in society. meh... nt seabeyond May 2015 #192

LOL! Why did he make her 50 feet tall? Rex May 2015 #142

I was thinking the same thing. bravenak May 2015 #172

Sexist and insulting to both candidates. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #146

That cartoon tells us a lot about the person who drew it. McCamy Taylor May 2015 #149

Every piece of artwork... Blue_Adept May 2015 #150

That's it! I'm not voting for Bernie! nt Romulox May 2015 #152

the cartoonist is simply exercising a First Amendment right. guillaumeb May 2015 #153

I don't even get his point. Maybe it's perspective. Or some movie he saw... Eleanors38 May 2015 #157

Even worse than this editorial cartoon Snobblevitch May 2015 #164

ugh Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #173

Scratches head..... daleanime May 2015 #177

WTF? historylovr May 2015 #181

oh, I like Ohman. Not this cartoon, though. nilram May 2015 #183

I think the image here is saying if she moves to the left she will crush him politically CBGLuthier May 2015 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #185

No. joshcryer May 2015 #190

What is amazing is the number of stereotypes here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #186

It's McClatchy TexasTowelie May 2015 #188

I'm pretty sure this is a date metaphor dreamnightwind May 2015 #189