General Discussion

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

51. Image is important when running a campaign. Everyone knows this, and pretending it's

Reply to Exilednight (Reply #49)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:47 AM

May 2015

not true is a route to losing.

Click here to purchase valentine hearts!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

71 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Compared to any Republican, the difference between Hillary and Bernie is rounding error. [View all] DanTex May 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #1

It will always be the time for the best candidate that can actually win. DanTex May 2015 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #3

Fair enough. Disagreement happens. Even on the internet! DanTex May 2015 #5

I'm not hearing an argument as to what makes anyone think that Hillary can win the GE. Exilednight May 2015 #4

Well, my argument: DanTex May 2015 #7

Polls are irrelevant at this point, money is overrated and if she's so Exilednight May 2015 #9

Well, I disagree with "irrelevant". Not as meaningful as polls the month before the election, DanTex May 2015 #10

Kerry lost due to an $800,000 commercial that ran for ten days based on a meaningless gaffe he made Exilednight May 2015 #11

Yet for some reason, you don't see many politicians turning down money. DanTex May 2015 #13

What do politicians do with most of that money? The majority of that money is Exilednight May 2015 #15

They spend it on, uh, campaigning. DanTex May 2015 #18

Let's take these one by one. Exilednight May 2015 #27

Well, you haven't answered my question. DanTex May 2015 #30

I would argue that is the exact reason. Hillary wouldn't be Exilednight May 2015 #33

OK, well it seems to that the much more logical explanation is that it takes money to win big DanTex May 2015 #38

have you seen the van? I guarantee you it costs more than I made in the Exilednight May 2015 #44

No. I'm sure it's a nice van. Does this actually matter? DanTex May 2015 #47

Image is everything. She could fly coach and it would be cheaper. Exilednight May 2015 #49

Image is important when running a campaign. Everyone knows this, and pretending it's DanTex May 2015 #51

That depends. Focusing too much on image can make you appear out of touch. Just ask Exilednight May 2015 #53

Sure, but there's no evidence whatsoever that Hillary is at risk. DanTex May 2015 #56

Americans think capitalism is a bad word. Why do polls Exilednight May 2015 #59

Umm, really? Of course, I forgot that you don't believe in polls. DanTex May 2015 #63

It's obvious you've never been involved in a national campaign. Professional consultants Exilednight May 2015 #64

It's also obvious that you haven't either. At least not a winning one. DanTex May 2015 #65

One losing, one winning. I worked in the Kerry campaign and the first Exilednight May 2015 #66

Wonder what Axelrod would think of your theory that money doesn't matter. DanTex May 2015 #67

Again, one by one Exilednight May 2015 #68

The first poll I was able to google up about capitalism and socialism. DanTex May 2015 #69

Wish they were just gaffes. Instead, she has thirty years of scandal and failures under her belt. leveymg May 2015 #50

The scandals are all phony though. Nothing sticks. DanTex May 2015 #52

Benghazi and Whitewater were phony scandals. There are real ones that involve a bipartisan group of leveymg May 2015 #57

In other words, none of them stick. Explain it how you want. DanTex May 2015 #58

Most of the biggest don't stick, with the notable exception of phony WMD leveymg May 2015 #62

Have you ever noticed that polls are CAG May 2015 #32

Legitimate question: the average person doesn't pay attention Exilednight May 2015 #46

The progressives' turn? treestar May 2015 #6

Hillary is going to win. onehandle May 2015 #8

I heard the same thing just before she lost in 2008. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #12

There is no Obama. onehandle May 2015 #14

To suggest Bernie is a proxy for Barack Obama is as absurd as suggesting... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #23

his national status in 2008 is highly inflated. He gave a speech in 2004 and somehow Exilednight May 2015 #28

I meant amongst the politically aware. onehandle May 2015 #34

You can't have it both ways. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #35

Well said! nt aka-chmeee May 2015 #16

Compared to any progressive, the difference between Hillary and a Republican is social issues. Scuba May 2015 #17

And economic issues. Like privatizing social security, raising minimum wage, pretty much everything DanTex May 2015 #19

Hillary and Pete Peterson are way to close to trust her on Social Security. Scuba May 2015 #21

I don't know who that is. And I don't care. There is absolutely nothing to suggest Hillary DanTex May 2015 #25

You can fuck Social Security every which way but loose without privatizing it. TheKentuckian May 2015 #36

Then you should learn. Scuba May 2015 #41

Yes, she talked at the Peterson institute, therefore she must agree with him on social security. DanTex May 2015 #45

There are a host of economic issues Hillary is different than the Republicans but you know that./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20

There are a host of economic issues where Hillary advocates the exact same policies as Republicans. Scuba May 2015 #22

Like protecting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, raising the minimum wage, and ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #26

Protecting Social Security? I don't trust Hillary to do that, not when she hangs with Pete Peterson. Scuba May 2015 #39

I once hanged around a kid who became a soldier in the Gambino family . It didn't make me John Gotti DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #40

Hey, if taking speaking fees from a billionaire determined to slash Social Security doesn't ...... Scuba May 2015 #42

As long as the Clinton Foundation turned around and gave it to the poor. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48

Really? To me the differences seem huge. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #24

Yes, I agree. On big issues Hillary & Bernie are on opposite ends of the spectrum. peacebird May 2015 #29

maybe at some point Clinton will reveal her views on issues, and your fantasy can be verified Doctor_J May 2015 #31

War is a Rounding Error Man from Pickens May 2015 #37

Aside from a few corpses, virtually the same. nt raouldukelives May 2015 #70

What's a few hundred thousand war dead between Presidential candidates? Man from Pickens May 2015 #71

not when it comes to issues of war and peace cali May 2015 #43

No shit... the 8 horrific years of Bush/Cheney took away any of my doubts. DCBob May 2015 #54

Personally I think the rounding error would more likely be between Hillary Clinton and Richard Nixon corkhead May 2015 #55

Truth! kenfrequed May 2015 #60

While you may be understating things a LITTLE bit, DFW May 2015 #61