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FSogol

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Sat May 30, 2015, 03:03 PM

May 2015

Why I support Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

There is a lot more, but I'll only add that Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

More info at our O'Malley group:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

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Will O'Malley pull more votes from Sec. Clinton or Sen. Sanders' supporters? [View all] FrodosPet May 2015 OP

Neither. He may simply be angling for a VP nod. n/t leveymg May 2015 #1

Don't count him out FrodosPet May 2015 #3

We need a Plan B Pill. He might as well be it. leveymg May 2015 #9

The more people know him... Koinos May 2015 #12

this O'Malley? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #23

Where did these graphs come from? ablamj May 2015 #33

same place Nate Silver gets them... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #38

glad you added the site ablamj May 2015 #39

You don't know where Nate Silver is? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #43

don't know where he is ablamj May 2015 #53

Statistician... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #55

I know WHO he is ablamj May 2015 #59

Also ablamj May 2015 #63

hahahaha...yeah...right... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #70

He of all people ablamj May 2015 #77

I believe they are legitimate images ablamj May 2015 #69

They are accurate enough for a Statistician to quote them... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #72

BFD ablamj May 2015 #75

rioooght! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #79

not pretending ablamj May 2015 #82

Yes they are....I will take Nate Silvers opinion over yours... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #90

not sure ablamj May 2015 #89

Oh right...."its just numbers" right.....and anyone can CLAIM they are fake statistics too VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #92

i didn't say ablamj May 2015 #101

And I can continue to laugh at YOUR stances.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #102

go ahead and laugh ablamj May 2015 #104

Yeah and "BFD indeed" was my response! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #105

and ablamj May 2015 #106

oh really? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #107

never ablamj May 2015 #110

I happen to be a social science researcher (and I teach statistics and measurement)... Sancho May 2015 #111

if you go to that website ablamj May 2015 #116

If you go to Jeb and Rand Paul, they are not close to each other... Sancho May 2015 #120

there's no way in hell ablamj May 2015 #148

I just looked at Jeb and Rand...you should do so... Sancho May 2015 #157

i looked at Jeb and Rand and...? ablamj May 2015 #158

Jeb and Rand were in different quadrants... Sancho May 2015 #160

yes ablamj May 2015 #167

even though some probably don't believe it...I don't have a personal issue with other DUers Sancho May 2015 #185

votes don't always ablamj May 2015 #191

I try to avoid those infernal debates but you will never get some people to abandon the eye test. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #208

Ok, OK ,OK. pangaia May 2015 #127

OK Ok OK....that is NOT what this man said..... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #139

LOOK, I did NOT say those graphs are lies !!!! pangaia May 2015 #144

Yes you did.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #149

I think you are confusing me with somebody else. pangaia May 2015 #152

Oh yes they are.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #137

AHAHAHAHA pangaia May 2015 #146

No I am honest.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #150

You have lost me. pangaia May 2015 #153

You just don't want to admit.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #154

You are a little mixed up here. pangaia May 2015 #156

You too qualify... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #168

no ablamj May 2015 #159

Whew! Where have you been? pangaia May 2015 #170

We have now 2 actual statisticians opinions VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #173

Why do you think statisticians are experts on political ideology? I'm not clear on what you think TheKentuckian May 2015 #202

So only one person can be guilty of it? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #171

but you used one of my quotes ablamj May 2015 #175

Sorry...but that person WAS defending YOUR VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #177

not really defending ablamj May 2015 #179

Thats defending your position VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #181

agreeing with one small point? ablamj May 2015 #182

How is that one snall point? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #184

The point being that you said the graphs were false VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #183

i said i didn't believe the graphs and that some can lie with graphs ablamj May 2015 #186

EXACTLY VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #187

you ablamj May 2015 #189

I am making perfect sense.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #192

but ablamj May 2015 #193

they SUPPORTED YOUR position that the statisticians opinions are lies.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #200

no ablamj May 2015 #209

Policy positions and the weighting of them are not statistics. How are you saying the discipline TheKentuckian May 2015 #198

data points ARE statistics.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #199

So data points are statistics, so what? TheKentuckian May 2015 #203

No....the study of them IS statistics... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #204

You are the one who said data points are statistics, I accepted that and moved on so now you are TheKentuckian May 2015 #206

Naw, he's not running for Clinton's or anyone else's VP. Koinos May 2015 #4

They can work together after things like that treestar May 2015 #115

Yeah, i don't get that feeling. He's in it to win it Joe the Revelator May 2015 #10

He's going to come out swinging against Hillary. morningfog May 2015 #34

I'd guess equal. HooptieWagon May 2015 #2

or will he pull no votes at all Johonny May 2015 #5

She has enough of a lead....she can afford to lose a few... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #6

There is a 22% undecided, he may get this portion. Thinkingabout May 2015 #7

Oh just the undecideds? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #8

Oh, I think there will be more than the undecided, I also look for others to jump in also. Thinkingabout May 2015 #13

Yep there will... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #16

Be careful with that pre-ordained stuff... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #24

What pre-ordained stuff.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #26

This is going to be fun. Joe the Revelator May 2015 #30

It is going to be so much fun. morningfog May 2015 #35

You damn straight it is! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #132

But until a few days ago there was no Democrat running against her. pangaia May 2015 #130

baloney....everyone knew Sanders and O'Malley would run... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #133

And when Obama announced in 07, she had a 33 point lead. Joe the Revelator May 2015 #162

Obama was an anomally VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #166

Hillary was and is a flawed candidate. Joe the Revelator May 2015 #188

Sanders is a psueodemocrat? pangaia May 2015 #129

Yep...he said himself he is STILL not a Democrat. VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #135

He'll certainly pull from Sanders, they are singing the same tune Joe the Revelator May 2015 #11

Martin O'Malley? Same tune you say? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #17

When it comes to campaign rhetoric, they are both going to woo Warren supporters Joe the Revelator May 2015 #22

I thought Bernie got all the Warren Supporters according to his supporters... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #25

Is this satire? Am i missing something? Joe the Revelator May 2015 #29

what satire? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #31

I've been around a very long time, which is why I know how this song goes.... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #32

apparently not... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #40

You can post that graphic until you're blue in the face.... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #42

I've been telling people for years, that those charts are moronic cali May 2015 #50

I suspect he won't pull much from Sanders cali May 2015 #57

You think he's late? I don't think anyone is really paying 'real' attention yet. Joe the Revelator May 2015 #67

oh they're paying attention in Iowa and new Hampshire cali May 2015 #109

Some of Clinton's support is soft. Koinos May 2015 #14

she can afford to lose soft can't she? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #18

Unless... kenfrequed May 2015 #123

HOW does that hurt her? She has a 50 point LEAD on the pack...not just above 50% VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #141

She is wanted by party members. ablamj May 2015 #169

and that is not going to be a problem.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #196

Wait and see kenfrequed May 2015 #195

At this early juncture, I'd say much of Clinton's support is based upon name recognition. Maedhros May 2015 #103

She received roughly 50% of the primary vote in 08 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #210

It's a different election, under different circumstances, so direct comparison is problematic. Maedhros May 2015 #212

Both. Scootaloo May 2015 #15

A good Candidate? For a Sanders supporter??? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #19

Welcome to reality VanillaRhapsody. Will you be visiting long? Scootaloo May 2015 #21

I am the one that is STILL in reality...I am the realist not the idealist in this conversation... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #27

No, he's not. But he's still a good candidate Scootaloo May 2015 #28

that is SOOO ridiculous....to say you support the policies of Sanders... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #36

All three are good candidates, Nilla. Scootaloo May 2015 #44

I will try to remember YOU feel that way... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #46

I think you should try talking to us rather than at us. Scootaloo May 2015 #51

why....what difference would that make? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #54

if your goal is for Sanders supporters to "go away," then I'm afraid you're on a lost cause Scootaloo May 2015 #64

Oh were you talkiing about Sanders supporters...or the ridiculous sanders supporters? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #66

I'm not confused in the least. Yes, I mean talk to sanders supporters Scootaloo May 2015 #73

Why should I talk TO them? What good will that do? I am not VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #81

Rather than AT them? Because they're people. Scootaloo May 2015 #83

silly people... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #84

Well, whatever. Keep doing as you do, Nilla. Scootaloo May 2015 #86

don't worry.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #87

You have to start something before you can continue doing it Scootaloo May 2015 #99

uh wut? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #100

Why are you so negative and sarcastic about all this? pangaia May 2015 #134

Because of how ugly and caustic Sanders supporters are... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #136

Pretty general statement, in my opinion. pangaia May 2015 #138

Snooty or confident? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #140

I didn't call anyone names. pangaia May 2015 #142

"snooty" isn't a name? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #143

it wasn't used as a name, ablamj May 2015 #172

Do what? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #174

names are nouns ablamj May 2015 #176

OmG VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #180

Good point. Koinos May 2015 #20

Quite right, Scootaloo. elleng May 2015 #97

The more the merrier ! kentuck May 2015 #37

With someone like O'Malley now in the race, Sanders support has probably already peaked. tritsofme May 2015 #41

Agreed, espessially with the new candidate appearing 'fresh' and rockstartish... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #45

this Martin O'Malley? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #47

Wrong, his support continues to grow and that is supported by polling. onecaliberal May 2015 #48

You could take your own advice. Just because you want Sanders' support to continue to grow does not tritsofme May 2015 #65

what people seem not to know is that Sanders already had a small national base cali May 2015 #78

I don't need to take my own advice I see onecaliberal May 2015 #122

Sanders has had the stage to himself for a few months, tritsofme May 2015 #124

agree 100%! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #49

Hillary has the most to lose, and has failed to execute a strong campaign, thus far. nt Romulox May 2015 #52

No Hillary is the only one that has it to spare.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #58

She lost in 2008. I don't think she has anything to "spare". nt Romulox May 2015 #61

She has plenty....she is far ahead of where she was then... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #62

Let me know if President Obama is running. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #74

I know right!!! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #76

Barack Obama was an incredibly charismatic man with a great life story. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #91

and some can like it or lump it! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #93

I won't go that far./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #94

LOL! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #95

OMalley splits Bernies vote workinclasszero May 2015 #56

I don't think so. I think there are a lot of people who don't find Bernie a cali May 2015 #85

I agree. Tikki May 2015 #163

Neither Renew Deal May 2015 #60

Niether Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #68

You gathered that O'Malley is running w/ no support off of one interview? Joe the Revelator May 2015 #71

And you dropped Bernie aspirant May 2015 #112

A better reason then assuming that a single interview on a station watched by .5% of... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #114

A single foreign policy issue (in a single interview) aspirant May 2015 #119

I've said this over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #161

You see what desperation does over and over and over again?. aspirant May 2015 #190

I gathered from that interview he was rather unimpressive. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #211

Probably Hillary, since more of his voters prefer her as their 2nd choice muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #80

I don't know enough about him yet. aikoaiko May 2015 #88

Here's a quick start: FSogol May 2015 #96

Thank you. I really do need to learn more. aikoaiko May 2015 #117

Here is what he said today about Wall Street, Glass Steagall, and the big banks... FSogol May 2015 #145

That is encouraging. aikoaiko May 2015 #147

As much as I will argue up and down that age doesn't matter TBF May 2015 #98

Age Koinos May 2015 #108

I agree - TBF May 2015 #118

If not the race- possibly the presidency loyalsister May 2015 #131

O'Malley\Castro TBF May 2015 #197

The anyone but Hillary crowd treestar May 2015 #113

Aside from the ABCers, KMOD May 2015 #121

I'll bet the HRC campaign talked him into running as a stalking horse to poach KingCharlemagne May 2015 #125

ALCOA! FSogol May 2015 #151

Wouldn't be surprised to learn that one of HRC's operatives offered O'Malley the VP KingCharlemagne May 2015 #155

I am a ABB person. Thinkingabout May 2015 #126

There is no " I cannot support Bernie" bloc. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #128

People invent shit for their premise . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #178

A few from Clinton; mostly from undecided and Biden Recursion May 2015 #164

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #165

You have my Sympathy. cyberswede May 2015 #194

Looks like he's running for Clinton's VEEP, but I could be wrong. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #201

Neither JustAnotherGen May 2015 #205

He's obviously fitting his campaign for those "Warren supporters" to capture those votes in the JonLP24 May 2015 #207