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In reply to the discussion: If you want to know what social justice is without economic justice... [View all]
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)155. It's manufactured by clickbait BS.
I see people on both sides making specious arguments to these ends. It is disappointing and overall pointless.
People seem to think "you must only support economic equality to support Sanders" and "you must only support social equality to support Clinton." Neither is true. Likewise they bash Sanders for not speaking up enough about social issues, while others bash Clinton for not speaking up enough about Wall Street (as if they'd believe her anyhow).
It's really all about hurting others and just being hatemongers. I haven't used ignore in my decade of posting here, but it is increasingly being used in the past few weeks. I've had enough.
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If you want to know what social justice is without economic justice... [View all]
Bonobo
May 2015
OP
yep - they are filled with women and children- the poorest of the poor in the USA.
bettyellen
May 2015
#1
The people insisting that 'social issues' are lesser issues are the people manufacturing this divide
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#21
People like those who have spent over a generation pushing "socially liberal but fiscally
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#83
I think the point is that you can be a rich African American or Hispanic and still be stopped for
merrily
May 2015
#28
Yep/while women's opportunities increased their reproductive rights have been bludgeoned....
bettyellen
May 2015
#35
I don't think Bernie ever said money solves everything or that he believes that.
merrily
May 2015
#37
not true. i was a sanders, now looking at omalley. bb is undecided. and a couple more are sanders.
seabeyond
May 2015
#47
no it is not. plenty take it seriously. and ya'll better take it serious, cause it will be a loss.
seabeyond
May 2015
#52
You are claiming that women and POC are faking grievances - down below another is
bettyellen
May 2015
#65
You were never for Sanders, you spent your entire phony "support" attacking him and posing FOX newz
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#88
It seems like the same people complaining that people were engaging in hero worship
gollygee
May 2015
#113
Perhaps you're imagining things- like you were when you decided I'm one of "you guys", lol.
bettyellen
May 2015
#48
Ahh, the women who pretend to care about reproductive rights for shits and giggles. Yeah....
bettyellen
May 2015
#56
Most threads i read are saying that we need both. Anyone who thinks money solves everything is
jwirr
May 2015
#53
i heard he was not passionate about social, that he is passionate toward $. the only way to address
seabeyond
May 2015
#58
The argument: Bernie is excellent on economic issues -> therefore he's poor on social issues.
delrem
May 2015
#4
It's proper to be unconcerned with the poorest of the poor- POC and women- when discussing poverty?
bettyellen
May 2015
#38
which is more likely to get shot for looking at the police officer the wrong way?
KittyWampus
May 2015
#30
I know what it's like. Parts of eastern KY and western WV are like third world nations.
peecoolyour
May 2015
#8
You should explain this to Tamir Rice's family. For some reason, I think that social justice is
DanTex
May 2015
#18
so you think the few African American DU'ers who hang on here are simply expressing
KittyWampus
May 2015
#27
Oh the victim card again. How much resentment do you have toward those more disenfranchised than you
bettyellen
May 2015
#40
and the people in the poor white community still don't get shot by police as often as PoC
KittyWampus
May 2015
#26
The poorest white communities are lacking in all forms of justice, just as other poor communities
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#34
I have to admit, I am a bit suspicious of those who try to seperate economic and social justice
Bjorn Against
May 2015
#45
Ahhh. Women and POC are low info voters that were hoodwinked cause they don't share your priorities?
bettyellen
May 2015
#60
"I do suspect that many of them have been fooled"- and that is the kindest thing you have to say!
bettyellen
May 2015
#67
economic injustice, and in order to bring about social justice we must fix that economic injustice.
seabeyond
May 2015
#74
they are parts, hence separated. without economic FIRST, hence, SOCIAL to the back of bus and wait.
seabeyond
May 2015
#82
the only way i see you addressing social is thru economic. you will not move off that line.
seabeyond
May 2015
#93
and you should know better also, in that me seeing it as i do is NOT not not not... saying you,
seabeyond
May 2015
#98
im not fooled by the rising boats thing, I lost more rights as a woman while my economic status rose
bettyellen
May 2015
#78
I'm talking about Bernie's campaign- which keeps pivoting (it seems) to economic solutions...
bettyellen
May 2015
#90
Please explain how rising in class has reduced your rights? Enlighten us on how a poor woman
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#99
And yet you are *still* better off than a poor woman, all things being equal. That's how privilege
Romulox
May 2015
#130
Your wealth privilege allows you options that a poor woman could never dream of.
Romulox
May 2015
#134
You vastly overstate the wealth of the average woman in order to minimize a very serious issue.
bettyellen
May 2015
#137
I didn't mention the "average woman". I said a woman with wealth has privilege over those who don't
Romulox
May 2015
#140
from the OP i read last night, the more we get to know sanders, might NOT be a good idea.
seabeyond
May 2015
#68
I did- but to be fair the only quotes I read were his feelings back in college -so fairly irrelevant
bettyellen
May 2015
#85
if it is false, and i give that seeing it is an interpretation from a writer, sanders needs to speak
seabeyond
May 2015
#89
Are you really, where was this discomfort during the decades of "socially liberal but fiscally
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#96
Not about you personally but you seemed to be adding your voice to the fake concern which really is
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#108
"What the fuck kind of shit is this?" populist shit. the shit of exclusion. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#109
What kind of life does a worker have when they are not respected as a living being?
Rex
May 2015
#119
except a lot of the people in this thread arguing are not clinton supporters or undecided, but....
seabeyond
May 2015
#129
I know, I myself support Sanders, but would like to insinuate he is a racist... nt
Romulox
May 2015
#131
talk about bogus. no one states, implies, suggests or even thinks he is racist. calling this out is
seabeyond
May 2015
#138
who cares what you predict and what you hope for. just more dismissing, not owning up to your
seabeyond
May 2015
#141