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In reply to the discussion: “We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences ..." [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,456 posts)57. "Hillary clearly wasn't advocating for releasing non-violent, victimless prisoners, now was she? "
Yes, she was.
The quote in the OP specifically says: "We need more prisons to keep violent offenders".
On top of that, she has supported fixing the broken justice and prison system for years.
We need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system. We need to make sure that we do deal with the distinction between crack and powder cocaine. And ultimately we need an attorney general and a system of justice that truly does treat people equally, and that has not happened under this administration.
Q: The US Sentencing Commission recently limited the disparity in sentencing guidelines for those convicted of crimes involving crack cocaine versus crimes involving powder cocaine. Should that change be retroactive?
A: I believe weve got to decrease the disparity that exists. It is really unconscionable that someone who uses five grams of crack cocaine, compared to 500 grams of powder cocaine would face such disparate sentencing. And its further compounded because the possession of crack cocaine really is unique in the way that it leads directly to prison for so many people. So I am going to tackle the disparity. I think it definitely needs to be prospective on principle. I have problems with retroactivity. I think that its something that a lot of communities will be concerned about as well, so lets tackle this disparity, lets take it on. The sentencing commission hasnt come forward yet with its specific recommendation but Im looking forward to seeing it.
A: I believe weve got to decrease the disparity that exists. It is really unconscionable that someone who uses five grams of crack cocaine, compared to 500 grams of powder cocaine would face such disparate sentencing. And its further compounded because the possession of crack cocaine really is unique in the way that it leads directly to prison for so many people. So I am going to tackle the disparity. I think it definitely needs to be prospective on principle. I have problems with retroactivity. I think that its something that a lot of communities will be concerned about as well, so lets tackle this disparity, lets take it on. The sentencing commission hasnt come forward yet with its specific recommendation but Im looking forward to seeing it.
Q: What is your approach to the Drug War?
CLINTON: I have spoken out on my belief that we should have drug courts that would serve as alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system for low-level offenders. If the person comes before the court, agrees to stay clean, is subjected to drug tests once a week, they are diverted from the criminal justice system. We need more treatment. It is unfair to urge people to get rid of their addiction and not have the treatment facilities when people finally makes up their minds to get treatment.
CLINTON: I have spoken out on my belief that we should have drug courts that would serve as alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system for low-level offenders. If the person comes before the court, agrees to stay clean, is subjected to drug tests once a week, they are diverted from the criminal justice system. We need more treatment. It is unfair to urge people to get rid of their addiction and not have the treatment facilities when people finally makes up their minds to get treatment.
Q: Some people say your husbands crime bill is one of the primary factors behind the rising incarceration rate for blacks and Latinos. It earmarked $8 billion dollars for prisons and continued a trend to harsher sentencing. Do you regret how this has affected the black community?
A: I think that the results--not only at the federal level but at the state level--have been an unacceptable increase in incarceration across the board & now we have to address that. At the time, there were reasons why the Congress wanted to push through a certain set of penalties and increase prison construction and there was a lot of support for that across a lot of communities. Its hard to remember now but the crime rate in the early 1990s was very high. But weve got to take stock now of the consequences, so thats why I want to have a thorough review of all of the penalties, of all the kinds of sentencing, and more importantly start having more diversion and having more second chance programs.
A: I think that the results--not only at the federal level but at the state level--have been an unacceptable increase in incarceration across the board & now we have to address that. At the time, there were reasons why the Congress wanted to push through a certain set of penalties and increase prison construction and there was a lot of support for that across a lot of communities. Its hard to remember now but the crime rate in the early 1990s was very high. But weve got to take stock now of the consequences, so thats why I want to have a thorough review of all of the penalties, of all the kinds of sentencing, and more importantly start having more diversion and having more second chance programs.
We have to do all of these things:
We do have to go after racial profiling. Ive supported legislation to try to tackle that.
We have to go after mandatory minimums. You know, mandatory sentences for certain violent crimes may be appropriate, but it has been too widely used. And it is using now a discriminatory impact.
We need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system.
We do have to go after racial profiling. Ive supported legislation to try to tackle that.
We have to go after mandatory minimums. You know, mandatory sentences for certain violent crimes may be appropriate, but it has been too widely used. And it is using now a discriminatory impact.
We need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system.
And she just gave a speech last month about the issue of incarceration:
There is something profoundly wrong when African American men are still far more likely to be stopped and searched by police, charged with crimes, and sentenced to longer prison terms than are meted out to their white counterparts.
There is something wrong when a third of all black men face the prospect of prison during their lifetimes. And an estimated 1.5 million black men are "missing" from their families and communities because of incarceration and premature death.
There is something wrong when more than one out of every three young black men in Baltimore can't find a job.
There is something wrong when trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve breaks down as far as it has in many of our communities.
We have allowed our criminal justice system to get out of balance. And these recent tragedies should galvanize us to come together as a nation to find our balance again.
There is something wrong when a third of all black men face the prospect of prison during their lifetimes. And an estimated 1.5 million black men are "missing" from their families and communities because of incarceration and premature death.
There is something wrong when more than one out of every three young black men in Baltimore can't find a job.
There is something wrong when trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve breaks down as far as it has in many of our communities.
We have allowed our criminal justice system to get out of balance. And these recent tragedies should galvanize us to come together as a nation to find our balance again.
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One of the problems with being a corporatist trying to run a government;
Half-Century Man
May 2015
#1
In for-profit prisons, prison labor is a revenue stream, prisoner education is not.
HereSince1628
May 2015
#22
Yes technology advancements and political opinions are the same thing. Nice try. nt
Logical
May 2015
#36
The original post is disingenuous. Digging up a two decade old quote against a recent interview.
Thor_MN
May 2015
#40
Perhaps we could avoid comparing something from over 2 decades ago to something said last week?
Thor_MN
May 2015
#28
Glad I could help. Also, Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in the quote
Recursion
May 2015
#77
I agree, it is embarrasingly inane to contend that a 21 year old quote is comparible with a recent
Thor_MN
May 2015
#33
Particularly when Sanders voted in the House for the bill she was pushing in the quote (nt)
Recursion
May 2015
#81
Better yet: she was advocating a bill Sanders voted for (the Assault Weapons Ban)
Recursion
May 2015
#75
Hell, we need sentences for first time bank$ter/donor offenders. Perhaps the FBI ought to busy
jtuck004
May 2015
#3
Hillary has been more of a politician than her supporters like to admit. She has a lot of....
marble falls
May 2015
#5
Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in this quote, the Assault Weapons Ban
Recursion
May 2015
#80
I guess Sanders has, too, on this issue - he AGREED with Clinton 21 years ago!
George II
May 2015
#92
All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#11
All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#64
Speaking of hit pieces ...here's one of the worst to hit DU from your side of the beltway.
L0oniX
May 2015
#88
Your point? Have you ever changed you opinion about anything? For that matter....
George II
May 2015
#15
Has Hillary changed her position on this? Please provide a link. I'll be glad to revise/delete.
Scuba
May 2015
#17
Hillary has changed some ideas, but does Sanders advocate letting "violent criminals" loose???
Sancho
May 2015
#18
No one advocated letting violent criminals out of prison. But by saying we needed "more prisons" ..
Scuba
May 2015
#24
"Hillary clearly wasn't advocating for releasing non-violent, victimless prisoners, now was she? "
NYC Liberal
May 2015
#57
Miss Cleo is ripping you off. Try a better source. Maybe buy your own set of Tarot cards.
L0oniX
May 2015
#56
Why do you think Hillary said we needed "more prisons" when she could have advocated ..
Scuba
May 2015
#23
Can't wait for her pro Iraq war vote to also be 21 years ago so it won't mean anything.
L0oniX
May 2015
#55
Women don't have to base their opinions on those of their husbands. I assume that was
sabrina 1
May 2015
#60
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2015
#37
She's gonna need to address things like the drug war and marijuana legalization.
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#49
I have to agree that using a quote from 1994 is not fair nor a valid comparison.
cui bono
May 2015
#58
And, in the intervening decades, we got both of them, and the crime rate plummeted
Recursion
May 2015
#59
The problem is the crime rate plummeted in the same time frame in other nations
Fumesucker
May 2015
#68
More incarceration inevitably leads to more crime and more sophisticated criminals
Fumesucker
May 2015
#78
Which is why I, like you, and Sanders, and Clinton, want to end mass incarceration
Recursion
May 2015
#79
Bernie Sanders doesn't? For that matter, EVERYONE changes positions from time to time.
George II
May 2015
#94