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TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
96. Raise the freaking cap and increase the tax by 1%
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jun 2015

Plain and simple. Of course their will be push back from those who earn more than the current cap and there will be push back from employers who don't want to pay the additional 1%.

There is an idea I've seen floating about that I like. While many would like to just eliminate the cap in one fell swoop, it could also be raised with an untaxed window that is gradually closed.

For example, the $113K cap could be raised 20% a year for 5 years. That would take it up to about $280K. But then there would be a window of untaxed income up to $1 Million. Then everything over $1Million would subject to SS tax. Doing it this way will tax more of the 1% who have reaped all the gains over the last few decades. Every year, the lower part of the window would be raised, eventually making all income subject to SS tax.

Furthermore, I think everyone who has investment income over a certain amount, say $1Million, should pay Social Security and Medicare tax on the investment income over that limit. I also don't think it makes any sense to make long term capital gains taxed at a lower rate when that income is very high. Let's put that limit at $2 Million. It's crazy that a trust fund kid or a hedge fund manager could make millions in capital gains income and never pay a dime to Social Security or Medicare?

The SS Act established the OSADI. That stands for Old, Survivors and Disabled INSURANCE. We have to have liability insurance on our car. If it's not fully paid for, comprehensive insurance too. If your home is financed, you have to carry insurance on it. Why do would we treat the security of our old, survivors and disabled as any less important than covering the loss of a car or a house? A civilized society takes care of its most vulnerable members. PERIOD.

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... napkinz May 2015 #1
Most of the people I worked with at the factory were pretty well used up rurallib May 2015 #2
That asshole has never worked a day in his life pscot May 2015 #5
yup! zazen May 2015 #7
+1. merrily May 2015 #9
Were his last name not Bush hifiguy May 2015 #47
PERFECT job for him. You should work in personnel placement. merrily May 2015 #49
That's perfect! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #68
What do you have against the night waitstaff at the Pensacola Denny's? Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #81
Precisely. nt MADem May 2015 #17
Precisely. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #67
Actually . . . ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #83
He should be working on a chain gang. Octafish Jun 2015 #87
Yes, that is absolutely right. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #84
you have nailed it rurallib Jun 2015 #97
it hasn't been 65 for years - he should do a bit of basic research before offering solutions to the DrDan May 2015 #3
He must have missed when Democrats and Republicans worked together to raise it last time. n/t PoliticAverse May 2015 #8
well . . he has had his hands full fixing elections, cleaning up his wifes smuggling activities, DrDan May 2015 #11
LOL Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #80
Yep, I had to wait until age 66...and my sister will have to wait until age 67. The curse libdem4life May 2015 #16
Yep. Me too. murielm99 May 2015 #40
Sandwich Generation. Kids and elders both living with them. merrily May 2015 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author eShirl Jun 2015 #73
Yep marions ghost Jun 2015 #98
I understand and I am so sorry. merrily Jun 2015 #99
I was born in 1944 & full retirement age was 66 for me. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #85
So you must have been the first group. I just looked for mine and my sister's. So it's at least libdem4life Jun 2015 #91
Seriously. Dude is behind the times. ladyVet May 2015 #53
I opted to wait, because at the time, it was the only pension I was going to have. Now I'm having libdem4life Jun 2015 #92
Many people over 50 have a hard time finding a job as it is. City Lights May 2015 #4
My thoughts exactly. I work for a company that targets employees for layoff once they hit 55! beaglelover May 2015 #37
Spot on! brush May 2015 #43
That should sit well with the Teabaggers. Not. merrily May 2015 #6
Proceed Governor Sherman A1 May 2015 #10
This would keep people working longer, shrinking the job pool for young people. octoberlib May 2015 #12
Cons are salivating over the prospect of old, desperate and hungry people to hire as cheap labor. B Calm May 2015 #18
Not really actually brush May 2015 #44
Except research shows the opposite mythology Jun 2015 #88
Social Security Ms. Yertle Jun 2015 #102
Maybe if your fat can has spent a lifetime in an office chair Warpy May 2015 #13
It should be expanded to 50yrs of age to offset the lack of jobs due to technology. CK_John May 2015 #14
That change always sounds good to the ears of people... JHB May 2015 #15
All that's missing are the whips and mint juleps. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #19
Exactly correct. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #69
Jeb Bush just committed political suicide workinclasszero May 2015 #20
Oh, that'll work well for people who do labor-intensive work. MineralMan May 2015 #21
Republicans hope we all die before 70 workinclasszero May 2015 #22
I sure don't know if voters will think much about this. MineralMan May 2015 #25
True but I'm going to make sure workinclasszero May 2015 #39
African American males beltanefauve May 2015 #61
That doesn't bother the racist Republicans. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #70
That so depends on luck Lurker Deluxe May 2015 #28
I can imagine! I sanded hardwood floors for one year in my 20's and my back was never the same. arcane1 May 2015 #33
MR/DD in Group Homes HockeyMom Jun 2015 #78
So do thirdway dems. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #23
They'll have to get minimum-wage, which won't go up because those are "summer-teenager" jobs. arcane1 May 2015 #34
Is anyone other than John McCain going to miss Rethug shill Schiefer? Kyblue1 May 2015 #24
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Jun 2015 #103
Why not 80 or 90? 110 would be a good choice. Kablooie May 2015 #26
For your 100th birthday a check from Uncle Sam! Warren Stupidity May 2015 #36
Oh God No catrose May 2015 #27
I hate the use of the lie that the retirement age is 65 (which would be too high too). TheKentuckian May 2015 #29
perhaps he is just too stupid to know it is no longer 65 Skittles May 2015 #48
Nox don't buy it for a second but ignorance is a curable conditions, I correct the lie every time. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #66
This from a man who hasn't done an honest day's work in his life. Vinca May 2015 #30
Too bad Jeb didn't retire decades ago and leave the rest of us the fuck alone! And congressional RKP5637 May 2015 #31
Jeb Bush, a man obsolete for the 21st century! Unfit to lead! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #32
This from a man that has never worked an honest day in his life. Rex May 2015 #35
Try cutting timber or working construction CanonRay May 2015 #38
I'm pretty sure Jebbie and all the people he's known in life workinclasszero May 2015 #59
NOT NECESSARY. Remove the CAP. Triana May 2015 #41
Anyone who suggests raising the retirement age nichomachus May 2015 #42
I will support that. Delphinus May 2015 #45
Simpler solution; Codeine May 2015 #52
It's already 68. MohRokTah May 2015 #46
it is currently being phased up to 67 Skittles May 2015 #50
Well everything I've ever received from the SSA gave a maximum amount if.. MohRokTah May 2015 #55
Or raise the cap. Codeine May 2015 #51
Retirement age should be made younger ArcticFox May 2015 #56
I'm 66, which is "full retierement benefit" age, but my benefits max out at 70. NBachers May 2015 #57
"Keep digging that (political) grave, JEB." Major Hogwash May 2015 #58
Rich fucks like Jeb Bush have no idea of the hell working americans go through workinclasszero Jun 2015 #86
If anything it needs to be cut.... daleanime May 2015 #60
Dear Jeb - Ef you and your whole damn family KentuckyWoman May 2015 #62
There is a bit of misunderstanding here SheilaT May 2015 #63
I'm close to your age and I remember hearing the same thing about 40 years ago. raccoon Jun 2015 #74
I'm glad I'm not quite the only one who recalls SheilaT Jun 2015 #95
He's just spouting words. WinkyDink May 2015 #64
I hate these f*ckers ZX86 May 2015 #65
A question regarding bush2.. Cha Jun 2015 #71
oh HELL no eShirl Jun 2015 #72
Says an entitled asshole who has never done any real work in his life. Fuck them. Fuck them all. CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #75
How about we - just raise the cap? This is not a difficult problem. Except for republicans who MillennialDem Jun 2015 #76
How 'bout this, Jeb? HassleCat Jun 2015 #77
I thank the Congress who had the courage to reform Social Security. It raised the full retirement Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #79
Blow it out your ass, Republican rich boy. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #82
What would really happen is that employees leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #89
Who gets full benefits at 65? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #90
I did lots of warehouse type work as a young man, loading and unloading trucks... hunter Jun 2015 #93
He's such a POS. Democrats should hammer. The age should being going DOWN, not up themaguffin Jun 2015 #94
Raise the freaking cap and increase the tax by 1% TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #96
Fuck That! Sheepshank Jun 2015 #100
God I hate this guy even more than his brother bobjacksonk2832 Jun 2015 #101
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