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52. that's a complete misrepresentation of his police dept.s approach

Mon Jun 1, 2015, 05:24 PM

Jun 2015

...which included his community policing program; his public review board for the police department, including the creation of a 311# for complaints; and, most effective, CitiStat, designed to track crime, which helped bring the crime rate down. Police shootings went down, as well as a dramatic reduction in overall killings; something which you can blithely dismiss, but something which resulted in hundreds of Baltimore residents' lives saved.

It's amazing how you can speak about the zero-tolerance policy in isolation of other facts involved in the mayor's approach to the worst crime statistics (record killings) in the nation at the time in Baltimore. Criticizing that policy in isolation of other facts gives you zero credibility on the issue.

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That time when O'Malley, Herald Ford, wanted to capture "the center" [View all] themaguffin Jun 2015 OP

so it's basically an anti-Bush article from over a decade ago bigtree Jun 2015 #1

Huh? That's your takeaway? themaguffin Jun 2015 #2

my take away is that this is 2015 bigtree Jun 2015 #5

I hope so, but it's disconcerting. I hope that you can recognize why themaguffin Jun 2015 #7

we didn't need to build a broad coalition in 2007. Their Op Ed was themaguffin Jun 2015 #13

The fact that he wrote a oped with that Harold Ford should send chills up progressives spines bigdarryl Jun 2015 #3

Misleading headline. The article is about not ignoring the center. FSogol Jun 2015 #4

Correct, it's about ignoring progressives themaguffin Jun 2015 #6

No, it is an appeal to solution based politics and not just throwing red meat to supporters. FSogol Jun 2015 #8

Not really as themaguffin Jun 2015 #14

that wasn't O'Malley's record in my state bigtree Jun 2015 #9

When was it the "center" was ignored? The expression is slicked up talk to say more conservative TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #58

Very intelligent article. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #10

No, there are not a lot centrists. Have we learning nothing? themaguffin Jun 2015 #12

I do wonder how much of the electorate is in play for any given national election. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #20

Who cares? askew Jun 2015 #11

O'Malley is a politician. He changes his tune as it suits his prospects. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #15

his record as governor matches his progressive rhetoric bigtree Jun 2015 #17

The point is that this kind of behavior is what we get from geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18

there isn't any inconsistency in O'Malley's progressive talk what he's done in my state bigtree Jun 2015 #19

there is a debate to be had over his tenure in Baltimore. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #22

we've had that debate in my state bigtree Jun 2015 #24

"can try and pretend it's an open question" geek tragedy Jun 2015 #25

there's a question as to whether an arrest policy over a decade ago is reponsible bigtree Jun 2015 #28

I don't think Geek is saying O'Malley is a bad guy, just that he's a career politician like Hillary DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #23

Yeah, Bernie Sanders is really the exception here. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #26

No disrespect to Bernie but he moved to a state that liked the cut of his jib. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #27

I think he's running as the "if something happens to Hillary" candidate--kind of the VP role already geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

In the unlikely event Hillary stumbled Biden would get in the race... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #31

Candidates who need jump in late don't fare too well. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #32

Frank Lautenberg won under the same circumstances when Toricelli dropped out in NJ. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #35

Love him, but Joe wasn't a very compelling candidate in 2008. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #36

Pat Caddell used to say he was the ideal candidate because of his straight talking everyman persona. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #37

Pat Caddell and Dick Morris are the same person nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #38

Most successful politicians are... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #21

His record is more conservative than Hillary's or Bernie's. pnwmom Jun 2015 #29

examples? bigtree Jun 2015 #33

If you go to the link I gave you, pnwmom Jun 2015 #34

actually there are many aspects of his crime policy which were progressive bigtree Jun 2015 #39

His zero tolerance policy was anything but progressive, and neither was his pnwmom Jun 2015 #40

yet, as I pointed out, it was not the entirety of his 'policing program' bigtree Jun 2015 #43

His biggest critic said, "I�m going to end up voting for him" FSogol Jun 2015 #44

He's obviously not O'Malley's biggest critic then. He likes him on other issues, pnwmom Jun 2015 #47

He doesn't have a poor record on police and crime. He lowered the crime rate as mayor. FSogol Jun 2015 #49

He lowered the crime rate by sweeping in the innocent as well as the guilty. pnwmom Jun 2015 #50

that's a complete misrepresentation of his police dept.s approach bigtree Jun 2015 #52

So you are saying this investigative reporter is lying? pnwmom Jun 2015 #56

I think most of his article is conjecture - inaccurate and incomplete bigtree Jun 2015 #61

He said IF he's the Democratic nominee he will vote for him. pnwmom Jun 2015 #57

On the issues is a Libertarian group. It is embarrassing that so many people on DU use it as FSogol Jun 2015 #42

You can't get more republicrat/lieberdem that Harold Ford Jr betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #16

O'Malley is a Clinton protege' and early DLC member Oilwellian Jun 2015 #41

we'll just ignore his actual record of progressive accomplishments in my state, then bigtree Jun 2015 #45

Well his actual record shows someone who prioritized a balance budget betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #48

ALCOA! FSogol Jun 2015 #51

a balanced budget which did not rely on cutting necessary or vital social programs bigtree Jun 2015 #53

Hark the Harold H2O Man Jun 2015 #46

the nerve - a candidate we support associating with this guy bigtree Jun 2015 #54

where is their op ed? themaguffin Jun 2015 #55

they're oped weights oh H2O Man Jun 2015 #59

. bigtree Jun 2015 #60

I'd have to get an endorsement directly from God Almighty to polish Ford up TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #62

actually from further digging, this was actually discussed back in the day... themaguffin Jun 2015 #63