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In reply to the discussion: That time when O'Malley, Herald Ford, wanted to capture "the center" [View all]pnwmom
(110,264 posts)56. So you are saying this investigative reporter is lying?
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish
The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was MARTIN OMALLEY. He destroyed police work in some real respects. Whatever was left of it when he took over the police department, if there were two bricks together that were the suggestion of an edifice that you could have called meaningful police work, he found a way to pull them apart. Everyone thinks Ive got a hard-on for Marty because we battled over The Wire, whether it was bad for the city, whether wed be filming it in Baltimore. But its been years, and I mean, thats over. I shook hands with him on the train last year and we buried it. And, hey, if he's the Democratic nominee, Im going to end up voting for him. Its not personal and I admire some of his other stances on the death penalty and gay rights. But to be honest, what happened under his watch as Baltimores mayor was that he wanted to be governor. And at a certain point, with the crime rate high and with his promises of a reduced crime rate on the line, he put no faith in real policing.
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How? There were two initiatives. First, the department began sweeping the streets of the inner city, taking bodies on ridiculous humbles, mass arrests, sending thousands of people to city jail, hundreds every night, thousands in a month. They actually had police supervisors stationed with printed forms at the city jail forms that said, essentially, you can go home now if you sign away any liability the city has for false arrest, or you can not sign the form and spend the weekend in jail until you see a court commissioner. And tens of thousands of people signed that form.
My own crew members used to get picked up trying to come from the set at night. Wed wrap at like one in the morning, and wed be in the middle of East Baltimore and theyd start to drive home, theyd get pulled over. My first assistant director Anthony Hemingway ended up at city jail. No charge. Driving while black, and then trying to explain that he had every right to be where he was, and he ended up on EAGER STREET4. Charges were non-existent, or were dismissed en masse. Martin OMalleys logic was pretty basic: If we clear the streets, theyll stop shooting at each other. Well lower the murder rate because there will be no one on the corners.
Eager Street is the location of the notorious Baltimore City Detention Center. The jail was embroiled in a widespread corruption scandal that resulted in dozens of inmates and corrections officers convicted on federal charges. It has also been under a federal civil rights investigation for more than a decade over its use of solitary confinement for juvenile offenders.The city eventually got sued by the ACLU and had to settle, but OMalley defends the wholesale denigration of black civil rights to this day. Never mind what it did to your jury pool: now every single person of color in Baltimore knows the police will lie and that's your jury pool for when you really need them for when you have, say, a felony murder case. But what it taught the police department was that they could go a step beyond the manufactured probable cause, and the drug-free zones and the humbles the targeting of suspects through less-than-constitutional procedure. Now, the mass arrests made clear, we can lock up anybody, we don't have to figure out who's committing crimes, we don't have to investigate anything, we just gather all the bodies everybody goes to jail. And yet people were scared enough of crime in those years that OMalley had his supporters for this policy, council members and community leaders who thought, Theyre all just thugs.
The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was MARTIN OMALLEY. He destroyed police work in some real respects. Whatever was left of it when he took over the police department, if there were two bricks together that were the suggestion of an edifice that you could have called meaningful police work, he found a way to pull them apart. Everyone thinks Ive got a hard-on for Marty because we battled over The Wire, whether it was bad for the city, whether wed be filming it in Baltimore. But its been years, and I mean, thats over. I shook hands with him on the train last year and we buried it. And, hey, if he's the Democratic nominee, Im going to end up voting for him. Its not personal and I admire some of his other stances on the death penalty and gay rights. But to be honest, what happened under his watch as Baltimores mayor was that he wanted to be governor. And at a certain point, with the crime rate high and with his promises of a reduced crime rate on the line, he put no faith in real policing.
SNIP
How? There were two initiatives. First, the department began sweeping the streets of the inner city, taking bodies on ridiculous humbles, mass arrests, sending thousands of people to city jail, hundreds every night, thousands in a month. They actually had police supervisors stationed with printed forms at the city jail forms that said, essentially, you can go home now if you sign away any liability the city has for false arrest, or you can not sign the form and spend the weekend in jail until you see a court commissioner. And tens of thousands of people signed that form.
My own crew members used to get picked up trying to come from the set at night. Wed wrap at like one in the morning, and wed be in the middle of East Baltimore and theyd start to drive home, theyd get pulled over. My first assistant director Anthony Hemingway ended up at city jail. No charge. Driving while black, and then trying to explain that he had every right to be where he was, and he ended up on EAGER STREET4. Charges were non-existent, or were dismissed en masse. Martin OMalleys logic was pretty basic: If we clear the streets, theyll stop shooting at each other. Well lower the murder rate because there will be no one on the corners.
Eager Street is the location of the notorious Baltimore City Detention Center. The jail was embroiled in a widespread corruption scandal that resulted in dozens of inmates and corrections officers convicted on federal charges. It has also been under a federal civil rights investigation for more than a decade over its use of solitary confinement for juvenile offenders.The city eventually got sued by the ACLU and had to settle, but OMalley defends the wholesale denigration of black civil rights to this day. Never mind what it did to your jury pool: now every single person of color in Baltimore knows the police will lie and that's your jury pool for when you really need them for when you have, say, a felony murder case. But what it taught the police department was that they could go a step beyond the manufactured probable cause, and the drug-free zones and the humbles the targeting of suspects through less-than-constitutional procedure. Now, the mass arrests made clear, we can lock up anybody, we don't have to figure out who's committing crimes, we don't have to investigate anything, we just gather all the bodies everybody goes to jail. And yet people were scared enough of crime in those years that OMalley had his supporters for this policy, council members and community leaders who thought, Theyre all just thugs.
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That time when O'Malley, Herald Ford, wanted to capture "the center" [View all]
themaguffin
Jun 2015
OP
The fact that he wrote a oped with that Harold Ford should send chills up progressives spines
bigdarryl
Jun 2015
#3
No, it is an appeal to solution based politics and not just throwing red meat to supporters.
FSogol
Jun 2015
#8
When was it the "center" was ignored? The expression is slicked up talk to say more conservative
TheKentuckian
Jun 2015
#58
I do wonder how much of the electorate is in play for any given national election.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#20
there isn't any inconsistency in O'Malley's progressive talk what he's done in my state
bigtree
Jun 2015
#19
there's a question as to whether an arrest policy over a decade ago is reponsible
bigtree
Jun 2015
#28
I don't think Geek is saying O'Malley is a bad guy, just that he's a career politician like Hillary
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#23
No disrespect to Bernie but he moved to a state that liked the cut of his jib.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#27
I think he's running as the "if something happens to Hillary" candidate--kind of the VP role already
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#30
In the unlikely event Hillary stumbled Biden would get in the race...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#31
Frank Lautenberg won under the same circumstances when Toricelli dropped out in NJ.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#35
Pat Caddell used to say he was the ideal candidate because of his straight talking everyman persona.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#37
He's obviously not O'Malley's biggest critic then. He likes him on other issues,
pnwmom
Jun 2015
#47
He doesn't have a poor record on police and crime. He lowered the crime rate as mayor.
FSogol
Jun 2015
#49
On the issues is a Libertarian group. It is embarrassing that so many people on DU use it as
FSogol
Jun 2015
#42
we'll just ignore his actual record of progressive accomplishments in my state, then
bigtree
Jun 2015
#45
a balanced budget which did not rely on cutting necessary or vital social programs
bigtree
Jun 2015
#53
I'd have to get an endorsement directly from God Almighty to polish Ford up
TheKentuckian
Jun 2015
#62
actually from further digging, this was actually discussed back in the day...
themaguffin
Jun 2015
#63