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In reply to the discussion: This say... a lot to me. In Dec. 2013, HRC said liberal criticism of Wall Street was "foolish" [View all]JonLP24
(29,929 posts)but than go overboard with what Bernie Sanders is proposing but mainly addressing the exception to reality & compromising as there is a difference there. Saying two different things in front of two different crowds? I've seen Obama in '08 with inspirational attacks on the Bush administration to "Our Constitution works. Our Bill of Rights works." to channeling with Bush with "they keep us safe" and on so many starting things using the old "speculative fears" Bush-era arguments to block torture photos and so much more which set in a new reality for me as for the longest time I thought the shocking Bush precedents would end with literally any new Democrat but not a single doubt when it came to Obama which I really became afraid of we are never going to walk back from them and increased executive branch powers & drones and don't have a doubt Hillary Clinton will be worse as she is more of a hawk than most Republicans -- I bet most Republicans wish they had her hawkish rhetoric skills. Same foreign policy as always just more doubled down.
The one that I remember well is the mandate who Obama nailed it on debates against Clinton and the ACA negotiations were incredible as stranger than fiction -- I get that Senate Democrats were threatening to filibuster but would sign any bill that didn't include a public option so the mandate was something as "filibuster-proof" but that won over no Republican votes and in-fact Republicans who supported versions with a mandate came out against it but what I don't get was the continued use of it but not just that -- Obama adopted the health insurance lobby arguments like why? They gave up on Olympia Snowe who signaled early support for it but after what happened to Grassley & the other guy they didn't bother with her figuring her to be a lost cause but Maine Republicans are a different breed that never miss votes. But it became about pleasing the moderate Democrats. Congress was a bigger mess but Democrats against the mandates started falling in favor of it as health reform was getting worse and worse and chances dwindling and the remarkable entire parties switching places on mandates. Then the last obstacle was Stupak with his unfortunate last name though the word everybody was thinking of fit him perfectly considering the time, circumstances, and reasons.
Bernie Sanders actually had legislation sponsored passed in one of the least productive years ever (2013) and this was lower than the "Do Nothing Congress" who had more legislation passed because they could override Truman's vetos.
The Turnip Day Session
Harry Truman makes a great speech. He wasnt a great orator but he outdid himself this night and he blamed all the ills of the country on the do-nothing Republican-controlled Congress. He also said Republican Congress, you want to make the country right. Ill give you a chance. Come back to Washington. Im calling a special session, the Turnip Day Session. Be back in un-air-conditioned Washington on July 26th. Well meet for two weeks and well see if you can deliver on your plank. No reason you cant. Youve got the leadership. Before that session started, however, the party really fragmented. July 17th then South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond creates the Dixiecrat Party. Two days later Henry Wallace who had been FDRs vice president creates the Progressive Party. Essentially the Party is shattered. Two of the three prongs that Democrats had relied on, that FDR had relied on for his four victories are gone, the Progressives, the Southern Democrats.
The Turnip Day Congress starts on July 26th, un-air-conditioned. Cruel to do that to bring everybody back when they should be running for office, and Harry Truman was relentless. The first day back in he hits them with a political 2 x 4. He issues two Executive Orders. He doesnt need their approval, so with one, 9981 he integrates the military of the United States and what most people dont remember and historians overlook, he simultaneously issues Executive Order 9980 which integrates the vast federal bureaucracy. He essentially undoes what Wilson has done in 1913. The federal government is now integrated. The Turnip Day Session, of course, advances no agenda. Its a debacle for the Republicans and he constantly reminds people and he returns to Independence, Missouri, for the month of August because campaign started mercifully after Labor Day in those days, and he goes home to Independence with his wife and daughter who he loved, and just about everybody in Washington thinks when he comes back after campaigning, hell be a lame duck president. No one thinks Harry Trumans going to be elected president.
http://www.virginia.edu/uvanewsmakers/newsmakers/gardner.html
What year was "Turnip Day" special session of Congress?
In 1948, President Harry Truman was running for election, but facing a bitter fight from Republicans in Congress dedicated not just to defeating Truman's proposals but to destroying the President himself. Republicans opposed Truman on everything from civil rights to public health care to expanding educational benefits.
They even refused to respond to the housing crisis that gripped the country, giving the impression government itself was broken. In short, the failure of the country would be blamed on Truman and Republicans would win at the polls that fall.
So, on Turnip Day, Truman called their bluff. In a brilliant political move, Truman relied on a little-used clause in the Constitution that permitted presidents to call Congress into special session "on extraordinary occasions."
Truman invited Congress to convene for two weeks beginning in late July in the famous "Turnip Day" session in order to pass everything they just promised the country. The President said he would sign the bills into law. Caught off guard, the Republicans, behind their leader, Robert Taft, refused to do anything but express outrage. This allowed Truman to label them the "Do Nothing Congress" and reveal their obstructionism to the American public.
On the campaign stump, Truman reminded the public: "That Congress never did anything
but they tried to sabotage everything. And if you people stay home this time like you did in 1946 (when Republicans were elected), you'll get just what you deserve."
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-03-07/news/sfl-new-rwcol-3710_1_vice-president-truman-turnip-day-history-at-lynn-university
Republican senators reacted scornfully. To Arthur Vandenberg, it sounded like "a last hysterical gasp of an expiring administration." Yet, Vandenberg and other senior Senate Republicans urged action on a few measures to solidify certain vital voting blocs. "No!" exclaimed Republican Policy Committee chairman Robert Taft. "We're not going to give that fellow anything." Charging Truman with abuse of a presidential prerogative, Taft blocked all legislative action during the futile session. By doing this, Taft amplified Truman's case against the "Do-nothing Eightieth Congress" and arguably contributed to his November victory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnip_Day_Session
I believe Bernie Sanders channels Truman and the Republicans channel the 80th Congress.