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Ford_Prefect

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50. In the context of 250 million 1.6 is not much I agree.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

I find your insistence that it's only $400,000 more than a bit naive. The Koch brothers talk in terms of 900 million they plan to spend on the 2016 election. They seem to be interested in getting the attention of the Clinton campaign and have a long track record regarding the influence they are purchasing.

I live in North Carolina where Koch money bought the entire state government along with the Chief Justice of the NC supreme court. This resulted in extremely weak rules regarding fracking, among several other Koch projects including gerrymandered voting districts, the dismantling of public schools, and the restructuring of the UNC University system to reflect their disturbing and severely distorted version of Christianity

If the Koch brothers have sent money to Clinton's foundation by any means it is certainly with the expectation of a sympathetic hearing. They only work one way and I have seen it in operation.

You may continue to insist that Hillary is not going to listen to the people with all that money. I appreciate your optimism and wish it represented a future I could believe in. I have seen them up close and they only spend money to get results, no matter the amount. They would not spend the kind of money they have without some idea that it will indeed pay off down the line.

They keep score by dollars, favors done and owed, promises paid for and delivered, and how many people they have in their pockets. They have been working with HRC for some time and believe they know what to expect. If you cannot see the way that wind blows I am sorry for you. They may not have specific promises but you can depend on it that they know which way she will lean when the time comes. It is what they do.

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K & R Koinos Jun 2015 #1
Well, DOH! Who'ld have thunk it. peacebird Jun 2015 #2
don't worry. her supporters will show up soon with their roguevalley Jun 2015 #14
I saw the same show. Alberta has already put the pipeline on hold. Laser102 Jun 2015 #31
I have removed my response to your remarks because I was roguevalley Jun 2015 #49
That's why Keystone has been approved... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #3
Those pesky facts again workinclasszero Jun 2015 #4
Obama vetoed it. Wilms Jun 2015 #13
Logical fallacy. The fact that it hasn't been approved isn't related to Clinton rhett o rick Jun 2015 #18
Why perpetuate this canard? The President DID NOT veto the pipeline RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #24
Those pesky facts again bahrbearian Jun 2015 #27
One of the grandest cases of willful ignorance ever seen MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #28
Yet it's so simple a four-year-old child could understand it RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #37
Except by Alberta. Pesky facts. Laser102 Jun 2015 #32
At least they didn't get it. hifiguy Jun 2015 #5
Only if you don't like Hillary. upaloopa Jun 2015 #9
okay dad :D roguevalley Jun 2015 #16
So do you despute the facts of the OP or don't you care? rhett o rick Jun 2015 #19
Hillary was paid MILLIONS to do what? NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #6
I imagine she has signed contracts saying so... HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #10
Saying what? n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #12
Saying she was paid to speak. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #15
To talk about world events, geopolitics, etc. DanTex Jun 2015 #23
Wow Hillary is running to be leader of Canada too upaloopa Jun 2015 #7
Exactly, the money went directly into her bank for her personal wealth rhett o rick Jun 2015 #21
But, she was paid just to talk! HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #8
Okay, spill. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #25
You are being very suspicious. It makes my bullshit meter go to 12... HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #26
I sincerely apologize ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #38
"Talk is cheap." Major Hogwash Jun 2015 #53
200K per speech doesn't seem too cheap. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #54
That's peanuts! Major Hogwash Jun 2015 #55
The Clintons love money. earthside Jun 2015 #11
I'm a Hill Raiser. KMOD Jun 2015 #17
Translation: Hillary gave some speeches at events partially sponsored by two of the largest banks DanTex Jun 2015 #20
I live in Canada ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #29
And the hits just keep on coming! nt Logical Jun 2015 #22
+1000 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #46
This is what I've been saying. She is bought. Owned lock stock & barrel. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #30
Bought by whom, exactly juajen Jun 2015 #39
How is she "bought"? NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #41
1.6 million is a lot of reasons to listen. As Dylan said: Money doesn't talk, it swears! Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #47
So explain how ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #48
In the context of 250 million 1.6 is not much I agree. Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #50
Huh? NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #52
My error indeed. You didn't discuss $400,000 let alone insist on it. My apologies on that one. Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #57
"in return for the expectation of a favorable hearing down the line." NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #60
I guess my short response would have to be:"How do we know she didn't?" Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #61
And my short response would be ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #62
oh picky. picky. picky olddots Jun 2015 #33
Has HRC clearly stated that she is adamantly opposed to the pipeline? SoapBox Jun 2015 #34
I'm sure there's no alterior motives going on with those paid speeches and... L0oniX Jun 2015 #35
money, money money......mooooney! paleotn Jun 2015 #36
What do you base that remark on. juajen Jun 2015 #40
Kick. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #42
K&R newfie11 Jun 2015 #43
lassiez faire pipline CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #44
how did that work out for the banks though dlwickham Jun 2015 #45
and here you are again azureblue Jun 2015 #51
It's the ultimate revolving door. Some people have no shame. How much fricking money does she need? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #56
She wants ALL the money! Major Hogwash Jun 2015 #58
I'm sure Hillary will take a principled stand Joe Turner Jun 2015 #59
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