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Arugula Latte

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34. I can tell you that as a woman I have dealt with this many times.

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:22 AM

Jun 2015

Not just on subways -- airplanes too. A lot of men think they should be able to take up as much space as they want and you should be forced to smash yourself over as far as you possibly can to accommodate them. It's either that or have their legs pressing against you the whole time -- which they WILL do. They don't care about invading your personal space; it's a way for some men to assert their power over women...I'm sick of it.

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Is Manspreading A Crime? Arrest Of New York Men On Train Etiquette Charges Sparks Debate [View all] Purveyor Jun 2015 OP

Jerk=Criminal? HassleCat Jun 2015 #1

I say hell yes, too! TheCount_ Jun 2015 #139

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Jun 2015 #142

Thanks. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #143

hmm, a cup of hot coffee. . .oooooppps!! a pair of stilettos---ooops. niyad Jun 2015 #2

Why violently assault someone? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #6

It's a joke Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #7

I know it's not to be taken seriously (mot unlike your indignation) but I'm still curious to know Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #11

I ride the subways daily Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #13

A poster downthread reports almost the opposite. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #15

Well Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #17

99.999% do it to take up room. It's worse than putting his luggage on the seat KittyWampus Jun 2015 #63

As a NYer you should know that "Energy attracts like energy" GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #18

Of course there are good people Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #152

Wow get some help phil89 Jun 2015 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Jun 2015 #38

man, it really bothers you when women talk back at men, doesn't it? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #56

lol, hysterical. (Are you here all week?) closeupready Jun 2015 #58

still bitter that your fellow traveler Pab got the boot for being geek tragedy Jun 2015 #59

lol closeupready Jun 2015 #60

I'm glad I drive to work and don't have to put up with this yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #81

Driving in Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #151

Why? Do you think burning someones's genitals is funny? Taitertots Jun 2015 #24

Some here think castration is funny. And male circumcision. closeupready Jun 2015 #26

Averagejoe90 couldn't have said it geek tragedy Jun 2015 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Jun 2015 #42

1. Rush Limbaugh agrees with your opinion on such matters. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #51

Are you really saying all feminist hate men is a fact? LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #57

we have a few MRAs on the board here. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #62

I think we have more people that yell "MRA" at every opportunity than actual MRAs. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #132

that would be a positive development, however right in this thread geek tragedy Jun 2015 #133

yes, you are actually seeing that comment on du. and, sadly, it isn't the worst thing that gets niyad Jun 2015 #96

feminists don't hate men. cyberswede Jun 2015 #85

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Well, if the person intentionally exposes them to take up three seats on a subway KittyWampus Jun 2015 #66

Sounds more like subway terrorism, than "subway justice" Taitertots Jun 2015 #71

you do know that stilettos are high heels? niyad Jun 2015 #31

This bigoted law needs to be challenged in court HEyHEY Jun 2015 #3

How on earth is this 'bigoted?' nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #10

Oh I don't know, cause it specifically targets one gender HEyHEY Jun 2015 #19

it doesn't target one gender, it tells people to stop occupying three seats instead of one geek tragedy Jun 2015 #20

Then why does it name a gender? HEyHEY Jun 2015 #90

because it's men who do it, using the bullshit excuse that sitting like geek tragedy Jun 2015 #92

Okay, so we should start a campaign against flopping purses out on the subway HEyHEY Jun 2015 #97

men and women carry bags, and yes women have been ticketed for geek tragedy Jun 2015 #99

I think, but not sure, he was citing the number of women on the subway... Chan790 Jun 2015 #118

which pales in comparison to the sexual assaults and geek tragedy Jun 2015 #119

Did you hear me say anything about sexual harrassment or assaults on the subway? Chan790 Jun 2015 #120

1) I did not attack you; 2) this isn't an issue of feminist concern but geek tragedy Jun 2015 #121

The law doesn't name a gender. That's the media nickname for the practice. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #124

Do we arrest fat people, too? AngryAmish Jun 2015 #115

If they put their bags on the seats or spread their legs like they're riding a horse nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #117

You do huh? LiberalElite Jun 2015 #22

sure there is. remember "wide stance" larry craig? niyad Jun 2015 #32

Oy. The original TMI nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #49

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #86

It can be uncomfortable or even painful LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #69

Do you have a dick and testicles? HEyHEY Jun 2015 #88

AMAB (nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #95

You may want to practice the art of sitting down. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #108

"I keep my legs together but at times it can be uncomfortable and even painful." NCTraveler Jun 2015 #74

Do you have a penis and balls? HEyHEY Jun 2015 #87

I do, and you're spouting bullshit. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #91

No, I am not spouting bullshit HEyHEY Jun 2015 #94

the anatomy doesn't vary that much. you're talking to a guy here, don't bullshit geek tragedy Jun 2015 #98

If you are a woman that poster won't listen to you on this topic. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #103

It has fuck all to do with testicles. ieoeja Jun 2015 #134

If you want to be graphic.... NCTraveler Jun 2015 #101

Our jails are full enough without arresting people for bad manners. nt peecoolyour Jun 2015 #4

I've been on transit for a decade and I don't see too many (of any gender) blocking seats with their MisterP Jun 2015 #5

What a bullshit crime. romanic Jun 2015 #8

Shouldn't be worth jail time, but definitely a geek tragedy Jun 2015 #9

I can deal with Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #14

I'm wondering why the guy boston bean Jun 2015 #12

There is no law specifically against "manspreading" GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #16

No, but not showing up for your court date is. Iggo Jun 2015 #21

"Manspreading"? Arkana Jun 2015 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #25

MRA bingo!--double score for "Men being men" and "social justice warrior" geek tragedy Jun 2015 #41

LOL, you are hysterical. closeupready Jun 2015 #45

Nice choice of words, given your claim that I'm 'anti-man' above. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #54

Ah, I'll fetch the fainting couch. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #44

You've got to be kidding me. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #46

On a crowded train, it should be Warpy Jun 2015 #27

I'm glad manspreading is getting attention. I've been around these arrogant jerks far too often. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #28

How do you know they were showing them off? Maybe it was hot and "the boys" needed air NightWatcher Jun 2015 #33

Men do this even when it's not hot -- I have experienced it many times. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #35

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someone doesn't like it when women talk back to men nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #55

and the same mra's every time women dare speak their minds. niyad Jun 2015 #61

But nobody's trying to shut women up... cyberswede Jun 2015 #89

thank you for that. was not even aware of it. niyad Jun 2015 #93

Oh, you've decided I should stop? Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #73

Awwwww, que lastima, pobrecito! WinkyDink Jun 2015 #78

LOL - use ignore and quit bellyaching. cyberswede Jun 2015 #80

who cares if the "boys" need air? that doesn't entitle the seat occupant to occupy 3 seats. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #68

The only silliness is trying to define "rudeness" and codify etiquette NightWatcher Jun 2015 #75

There is actually a difference between "a crowded situation" and "causing the crowding." WinkyDink Jun 2015 #79

The truth is that jamzrockz Jun 2015 #82

They aren't. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #100

BWAHAHA! Yeah, really. Only men have legs that meet at the groin. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #77

this: niyad Jun 2015 #36

:) Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #37

Can't We Do ANYTHING Right? Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #30

I can tell you that as a woman I have dealt with this many times. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #34

phyllis chesler talks about how women are socialized to take up as little space as possible, to niyad Jun 2015 #40

I have seen it plenty of times. So has my wife, who has rheumatoid arthritis and has had geek tragedy Jun 2015 #43

Tell her to say "can you move that please? While lowering herself down... bettyellen Jun 2015 #155

she's tried that and been threatened with a beat down. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #156

On a crowded train? Wow- I've done this dozens of times and people are generally to embarrassed to bettyellen Jun 2015 #157

people who threaten beat downs on trains are generally immune to geek tragedy Jun 2015 #158

Yeah, but they are a relative rarity during rush hour. bettyellen Jun 2015 #159

cops would be at least 15 minutes from being able to respond. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #160

And no one I knew voted for Nixon. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #48

Still waitin ' to hear about that slipcover. Is that the D train? n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #102

Probably the Brooklyn-bound L. Chan790 Jun 2015 #122

There Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #141

It's been a while since I was in Brooklyn. :/ Chan790 Jun 2015 #153

Sorry if I came Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #161

Being a rude jerk is not a crime. hifiguy Jun 2015 #50

I know! Won't someone think of the children?! Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #53

It gets tiresome on a long bus ride. hifiguy Jun 2015 #67

That's why Dog created earbuds. closeupready Jun 2015 #65

I think you have a "fan". hughee99 Jun 2015 #104

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When your leg rubs up on mine, it is. Men need to STAY THE HELL IN THEIR OWN SPACE. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #76

As long as you're not spreading your legs out into the space in front of the adjoining passenger, pnwmom Jun 2015 #125

Exactly, but that's still hifiguy Jun 2015 #126

If you're purposely rubbing up against an adjoining woman, invading her space, pnwmom Jun 2015 #127

Agreed. Misunderstood hifiguy Jun 2015 #131

Ironically when apprehended & frisked... Blue Owl Jun 2015 #52

Related: Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #64

Arrest?! This can't be solved with a citation? Inkfreak Jun 2015 #70

Let's not be coy. These men want to touch women using the excuse of "needing space" (they wish). WinkyDink Jun 2015 #72

with their knees? really? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #106

And you would offer what other reason? A medical condition that somehow women don't ever get? WinkyDink Jun 2015 #162

It's called being an asshole, it's just affects women's handbags instead of their legs. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #163

I agree TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #107

Classic DU manspreading thread... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #83

that expression cracks me up!!! Skittles Jun 2015 #145

Good lord! This thread is a disaster. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #84

What the hell, no ones cares to discuss actual news around these parts anymore so I'm going with Purveyor Jun 2015 #113

You wonder what a physical gathering of them all would be like. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #144

Lbr romanic Jun 2015 #148

Lets just try and prioritize here Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #105

It anti-social behavor so I think there such at least be hefty fines. snagglepuss Jun 2015 #111

I agree. Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #149

Criminalization of pet peeves Prism Jun 2015 #112

Me too. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #114

Nothing at all Prism Jun 2015 #130

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Fatal Attraction Prism Jun 2015 #138

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Pointing and laughing would probably cure that tendency. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #123

Sorry, had to... stevenleser Jun 2015 #128

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I wasn't aware of a "manspreading" statute. Vinca Jun 2015 #135

not showing up to court dates. nt magical thyme Jun 2015 #150

Seems like a simple solution would be ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #137

have you seen the guys who claim they have to manspread because they are so HUGE Skittles Jun 2015 #146

Maybe boot them off the train if they don't stop. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #147

Excuse me? Can I please sit next to you? HockeyMom Jun 2015 #154