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DanTex

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58. Well, that's probably the root of our disagreement.

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:09 PM

Jun 2015

I totally understand that if you start with that assumption, and I start with the opposite one, we will reach different conclusions. If I thought Bernie had a better or even equal chance in the GE, then I would support him. But can't see it. And winning the GE is too important to me to take the risk.

The other thing I'd add is that, regardless of who anyone supports in the primary, the incessant attacks on other candidates (primarily Hillary) are purely counterproductive. The odds heavily favor her to be the nominee, and even if you don't play the odds, you still have to agree that it's a pretty distinct possibility. And if she does become the nominee, then all attacks on her do is make the GOP more likely to win.

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How is Bernie [View all] boston bean Jun 2015 OP

He'll need a supportive Democratic congress for starters. morningfog Jun 2015 #1

"Dollars don't vote." NCTraveler Jun 2015 #14

A billion dollars can buy lots of things: morningfog Jun 2015 #16

"Dollars don't vote" DrDan Jun 2015 #25

How is Clinton TM99 Jun 2015 #2

There are already bills that got bi-partisan support ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10

We should give up and vote for the 1% instead. TBF Jun 2015 #3

Nope, but those policies aren't going to happen under Sanders either. Adrahil Jun 2015 #23

Yesterday he outright said he could not do it alone. And neither can Hillary. The House is still jwirr Jun 2015 #30

Well he probably won't be able to do all of those things el_bryanto Jun 2015 #4

^^^this!^^^ peacebird Jun 2015 #9

I'm sure he won't be successful at everything he wants to do gollygee Jun 2015 #5

Easy . . . ucrdem Jun 2015 #6

He runs on these issues, and if Congress doesn't support his policies ... Scuba Jun 2015 #7

So much agreement!!! kenfrequed Jun 2015 #17

And he promised free ice cream Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #8

The free ice cream part was in a Bernie bashing thread. nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #15

Ben and Jerry are Big Supporters. I believe they did this in CA one year...made a libdem4life Jun 2015 #29

He has to do this incrementally JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #11

I will tell you how he is going to. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #12

He's not. First of all, he's not going to win the nomination. DanTex Jun 2015 #13

wow kenfrequed Jun 2015 #18

+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #20

I'm a Democrat too, no less of one than you. DanTex Jun 2015 #35

Well... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #41

Sorry you feel that way about my posting. Just sharing my opinions. DanTex Jun 2015 #43

Right. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #50

That was actually the third point I made in that post. DanTex Jun 2015 #54

And I think.. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #56

That said... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #57

Well, that's probably the root of our disagreement. DanTex Jun 2015 #58

Sure kenfrequed Jun 2015 #60

You've got to be kidding me about the "aggressive negative behavior" line. DanTex Jun 2015 #61

Ah kenfrequed Jun 2015 #62

Why do you think the AA group has a different take on that controversy than GD? DanTex Jun 2015 #65

I'm done with this. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #66

So you can't answer that question. Or you don't want to think about it. DanTex Jun 2015 #68

From an African American who is also a Hillary supporter: +1,000,000 to everything you just said. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #64

This +1000. Perfectly stated. R B Garr Jun 2015 #71

NOTHING will get through the Republican Congress tkmorris Jun 2015 #19

I don't want to base my vote gollygee Jun 2015 #22

So, I'm getting the sense that you're a Hillary supporter? libdem4life Jun 2015 #32

I'd prefer Bernie on a pure policy basis, but I prefer Hillary given political reality. DanTex Jun 2015 #34

There is still a year to go. I have hope, but will always vote D, regardless. libdem4life Jun 2015 #36

So you're not for democracy? You speak for all of the people and no matter how much the people WANT sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #45

What? Of course I'm for democracy! I'm just making predictions about what I think DanTex Jun 2015 #51

Bernie running doesn't have much to do with 2016. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #52

Hey can I borrow your crystal ball? Avalux Jun 2015 #67

And all because you say so. frylock Jun 2015 #70

To move towards single payer JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #21

Free college tuition is even easier. ieoeja Jun 2015 #31

So Sallie Mae aka Navient JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #37

Hey folks kenfrequed Jun 2015 #42

Great! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #49

Good. I have also suggested that we begin this fight by consolidation of the many government jwirr Jun 2015 #38

jwirr - Maryland has a blueprint for this JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #53

Cool questions Kalidurga Jun 2015 #24

FIRST - He needs the will and desire to do that. .. Trajan Jun 2015 #26

How did FDR do all the things he did? He tried. He did not give up because it seemed hopeless. jwirr Jun 2015 #27

It's a political revolution. It's not just about electing Bernie azmom Jun 2015 #28

Thank you. jwirr Jun 2015 #40

Con Bernie, si se puede!!! azmom Jun 2015 #44

How is anyone? whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #33

Ask not what Bernie can do for your country. Orsino Jun 2015 #39

If he doesn't take donations from billionaires fadedrose Jun 2015 #46

If he can pull off getting 1 million young folks/and old too, to DC and rally/march, libdem4life Jun 2015 #47

The same way he has followed through on all of his other grand promises. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #48

At least he will try. eom JEB Jun 2015 #55

A journey of a 1000 li begins with one step. Lao Tse Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #59

He isn't Egnever Jun 2015 #63

Because Presidents can do whatever they want. zappaman Jun 2015 #69

I like all our candidates...That's all I will say... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #72