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H2O Man

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Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jun 2015

I think this is an important OP/thread -- in part, of course, because of the subject matter -- and in part because of the DU discussion that follows.

I think it is troubling that Ms. Clinton spoke that way, but neither surprising, nor a "game changer" in the sense of Willard Romney's infamous 47% quip. I understand that for many Democrats, talking to the 1% is part of being a politician. They are part of "the system," and surely hold a disproportionate amount of power. In terms of what she said, it is inauthentic, and is certainly the type of brown-nosing that many here correctly hold in complete contempt. Yet, it is part of the game.

Do I believe that she actually believes that weak shit? No.

Does her saying this draw a distinction between her and the other two Democratic candidates? I do not know if Martin O'Malley would say anything like that, or not. Hence, my opinion is "maybe." Would Bernie Sanders? Definitely not. How important this distinction is, can only be decided by each of us as individuals.

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She has a record n2doc Jun 2015 #1
I just got slagged by someone with a 33 post thread count. roguevalley Jun 2015 #21
Of course not n2doc Jun 2015 #62
The first viable woman candidate for president is being careful! aquart Jun 2015 #65
So because of her gender she has to do flip flops? BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #70
No. But ANYONE walking a tightrope is doing a balancing act. aquart Jun 2015 #103
Code for you hate women DiverDave Jun 2015 #82
So people have said that about you? aquart Jun 2015 #104
I take her at her word when no one was really looking. What she says now is carefully roguevalley Jun 2015 #75
Denial is not just a river..... hifiguy Jun 2015 #2
Now the logo is making sense. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #3
Dame Hillary Plucketeer Jun 2015 #40
That's hysterical. Thanks. n/t zentrum Jun 2015 #47
Good one. nt laundry_queen Jun 2015 #60
Any Way the Wind Blows Petrushka Jun 2015 #69
Oh, c'mon Cali. KMOD Jun 2015 #4
"We all got into this mess together, and we’re all going to have to work together to get out of it." L0oniX Jun 2015 #5
I am not saying I agree. I'm trying to put together some translation of what the reporters KMOD Jun 2015 #10
Like no one has evolved? Changed their minds? Obama and gay marriage comes to mind. Laser102 Jun 2015 #74
That's why I'm voting for someone who has already "evolved" arcane1 Jun 2015 #77
OMG! What if she evolves BACK?! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #94
When did Obama "evolve"? bvar22 Jun 2015 #88
We got into this together how? Where are my profits and 6,7,8 figure bonuses then? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #9
We ALL got in this together???!!!! bvar22 Jun 2015 #15
We all got on this Titanic together Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #16
If that is what she said, and I don't know because it appears no reporter covered the event. KMOD Jun 2015 #18
Now, why is that, I wonder? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #37
So the Banksters are the truth tellers now? KMOD Jun 2015 #38
They're the source we have for this particular event. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #41
and you seem to put your trust in a few anonymous banksters. KMOD Jun 2015 #43
Do you deny that she was at the event? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #44
No, I do not deny she was at the event. KMOD Jun 2015 #45
And were you a participant at this particular event? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #48
Now you are just being silly. KMOD Jun 2015 #49
If you can show me Hillary's actual statements from this event, I would love it. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #50
Fine. Should I stoop to this level and start posting all the ridiculous KMOD Jun 2015 #51
I'm asking you to back yourself up. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #52
I made my case. KMOD Jun 2015 #54
No, you expressed your opinion Scootaloo Jun 2015 #57
KMOD made the threat to slander the wife of a candidate. Bohunk68 Jun 2015 #63
I believe the chant goes "banks got bailed out, we got sold out." Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #22
My friend who lost her house would like to know that too. No bailout for her! They offered her $800 sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #61
MRW Hillary said we got in this together.... Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #28
If the statement is true, and we have no proof of such, the statement sounds like she is KMOD Jun 2015 #32
You posted the statement to clarify what you thought were WORSE remarks... Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #33
I'm trying to reconcile gossip, from two different sources, to determine KMOD Jun 2015 #36
She isn't wrong. Many people have formed ties with Wall St and banksters. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #68
What do you have against legalized ponzi? eom PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #6
Right now, her fans will tell you to believe Campaign Hillary. Marr Jun 2015 #7
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Jun 2015 #8
+ a shitload BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #11
Just like we believed campaign Obama. Paka Jun 2015 #23
Exactly. Nt HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #31
Got that right. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #24
Evolved??.... Segami Jun 2015 #12
Who does Not know this? It's been all over the place since the sudden New York residence libdem4life Jun 2015 #13
What I don't understand is how can her actions be defended. When Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Jun 2015 #14
Really?! Aren't people tired of this shit already? We have 3 damn good candidates to choose from uponit7771 Jun 2015 #17
Neither was FDR, right? Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #25
FDR had wall streeters in his cabinet uponit7771 Jun 2015 #96
You imply people are going overboard with Hillary wall-street criticism JonLP24 Jun 2015 #30
No, there's no "going" at all they're already there... FDR had wall streeters in his cabinet uponit7771 Jun 2015 #97
Yeah, y'all have 3 good candidates DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #34
Nope, that would make things interesting... we're not discussing anything though IMHO... just ... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #98
Depends on how you define "reality".... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #46
After Obama no one is toast, Bernie can organize like Obama and work the backstage and get uponit7771 Jun 2015 #99
The DLC types act like everyone who worked to get Obama elected should now do it for Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #101
The direct contradiction struck out to me as well JonLP24 Jun 2015 #19
I think we just need to adopt the perpetual Clinton/Bush presidency and be done with it. jalan48 Jun 2015 #20
"Bush could buy children's books for his brother's library." Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #27
Kinda like Denmark Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #39
I like it! jalan48 Jun 2015 #42
Speaking of which, who is the next-generation Bush? malthaussen Jun 2015 #73
There are a lot of little Bushes running around. jalan48 Jun 2015 #76
Bush has two daughters that should be ovr 21 by now. bvar22 Jun 2015 #91
Of course! How could I have forgotten Jenna and not-Jenna? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #95
She must be "evolving" again for the primaries. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #26
+1 AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #59
Hoy many epiphany's is one person entitled to in a lifetime? NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #64
There's a limit to epiphany's? I hope not. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #100
I call your Dylan, and raise you a Green Day Exilednight Jun 2015 #79
Believe the one that's actually quoted and not hearsay. KMOD Jun 2015 #29
Had to add another reply when the previous subthread didn't go your way, huh? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #55
Yeah, believe an actual source, or anonymous millionaire banksters. KMOD Jun 2015 #56
You got that transcript from the Goldman-Sachs speech yet? jeff47 Jun 2015 #58
LOL. You know when you use quotations some people might think DanTex Jun 2015 #35
Actually , what she meant was...... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #53
...which ever way the big money blows. SoapBox Jun 2015 #66
when banksters start adding zeros to the right of the first number, the further Exilednight Jun 2015 #80
I don't blame the bankers - I blame our govt. Hillary would allow the looting to continue. Oneironaut Jun 2015 #67
Disappear Hillary...Next!!! billhicks76 Jun 2015 #71
I do not trust her Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2015 #78
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2015 #81
"Foolish" - ONE word taken out of context. George II Jun 2015 #83
here's your context AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #86
She read off those figures during the speech in which she used the word "foolish"? No, but.... George II Jun 2015 #87
cognitive dissonance AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #89
The fact still remains, that word "foolish" was one word taken out of a speech she gave.... George II Jun 2015 #90
the message was clear AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #93
"So which Hillary am I supposed to believe?" BeanMusical Jun 2015 #84
Poor Hillary. She has some record. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #85
Without Wall Street millions of Americans Gman Jun 2015 #92
Neither, ambiguos explaintions for the same old story orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #102
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