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byronius

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216. No no no no.

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:30 PM

Jun 2015

I make the point to attempt some call for civil discourse, ESPECIALLY from Bernie supporters, from whom I expected better. Bernie knows that this kind of divisive rhetoric will polarize and insure Hillary's victory, and this forum is an important microcosm of what's going to happen nationwide.

Bernie would tell the commenters on this thread to back off and behave. Purity tests and paranoia are not the path. Ascribing devious motives and hurtful intent to someone pointing out that flame-wars serve no one but Scott Walker is a major FAIL. I am up to nothing but asking for civil discourse, ESPECIALLY from the best candidate, who may yet draw enough moderates to win this thing -- unless his 'supporters' turn on them, which they have in this thread.

The dialogue matters. This board matters. Human perception matters. To say otherwise is blithering idiocy.

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Trash-talking Hillary on this board makes me more likely to vote for Hillary. [View all] byronius Jun 2015 OP

I can see how discussion of policy might make a Hillary supporter itchy. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #1

Don't forget Bernie is racist Fearless Jun 2015 #50

They're fully capable of anything -- that's been demonstrated already. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #73

It is becoming my experience here that if you don't agree with roguevalley Jun 2015 #78

Take care! Paka Jun 2015 #101

And you too. :D Best wishes. roguevalley Jun 2015 #117

Sorry to hear that. byronius Jun 2015 #134

I got banned from a Bernie Sanders group... NiceTryGuy Jun 2015 #140

OH BULLSHIT. You got your post hidden and were banned for good reason: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #143

Nice! Lol Quackers Jun 2015 #148

Amateur. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #149

I greatly enjoy people complaining about a hidden post Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #166

Happy to be of service! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #228

Thanks Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #259

I got banned from the Bernie group too Sheepshank Jun 2015 #184

And, they whined about us blocking people from the Barack Obama Group. Cha Jun 2015 #257

yeah....if there was something substantive I could see it Sheepshank Jun 2015 #261

That's awful. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #215

Not a Hillary supporter, AtomicKitten. byronius Jun 2015 #111

Well I believe you, Bryonius. I understand how people evolve. MelungeonWoman Jun 2015 #120

My dream candidate is Neal DeGrasse Tyson. byronius Jun 2015 #121

If people critiquing another candidate on a message board makes you change your vote.... Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #2

+1 Well said. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #9

So why can't we critique Bernie? YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #19

Critique him all day? Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #20

It's fair to critique, but I don't see Bernie supporters making fun of Hillary's hair. Exilednight Jun 2015 #38

Nobody is innocent...however Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #41

Sorry, meant that towards the poster above you. My bad. Exilednight Jun 2015 #42

All good Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #44

You can, but AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #207

It goes far beyond "critique". Far beyond. NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #24

How so? Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #124

Hmm... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #152

Exactly Martin Eden Jun 2015 #97

+1 yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #109

This is not a message board. byronius Jun 2015 #113

and many... quickesst Jun 2015 #136

Don't base your vote on the behavior of a small handful of rude supporters. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #3

Well said. Acknowledged. byronius Jun 2015 #114

And trash talking Bernie makes me more determined to vote for Bernie nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #4

Yes. eom PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #13

This is true for me as well, as I pointed out in the OP. byronius Jun 2015 #116

Did you hear what Randi Rhodes was saying about Hillary? AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #208

That is true; during the primary season she definitely chose a side. byronius Jun 2015 #209

So did Stephanie Miller AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #211

That's all it takes? A bunch of anonymous internet users? Not the policies of the neverforget Jun 2015 #5

No kidding. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #6

Reminds me of this creepy faux fundy I used to work with. Puglover Jun 2015 #164

Sheesh. byronius Jun 2015 #212

"Dripping with meaness." Puglover Jun 2015 #220

No,I meant that my post has revealed much to me. byronius Jun 2015 #222

Okay I'll be more direct. Puglover Jun 2015 #224

Most of the comments on this thread are a direct response to the insults in the op. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #227

Yup Puglover Jun 2015 #229

Your post was so offensive I'm going to vote for Ted Cruz now. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #230

... Puglover Jun 2015 #231

WTF? Passive aggressive disingenuous? byronius Jun 2015 #235

What did you think would happen when you insulted a bunch of people in GD? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #225

Yeah, backing out. byronius Jun 2015 #236

Am I supposed to feel guilty? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #239

Nothing like trying to put out a fire by throwing gasoline on it. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #223

A call for civil discourse is flame bait these days, you are so correct. byronius Jun 2015 #238

"Bernie Sanders is a better person than some of his Number One fans are." beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #240

Surely. byronius Jun 2015 #241

This is Major Tom to ground control... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #242

Yep MissDeeds Jun 2015 #47

This is not the Internet. byronius Jun 2015 #119

+1! darkangel218 Jun 2015 #151

I too enjoy reading everything via the mechanism of literalism rather than grasping an obvious point LanternWaste Jun 2015 #204

Cool story, bro. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #7

Seems legit to me Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #36

Now I'm afraid to trash-talk Jeb. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #185

Great comment, so worthy, so wise. byronius Jun 2015 #213

You're just making it more likely that I'll write-in my own name. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #255

LOL Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #262

Nothing but snark. That's it? byronius Jun 2015 #214

"Bernie's a better person than you, dude" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #233

Feigned indignation Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #260

Are you saying that some words posted on the internet by people you've never even met... 99Forever Jun 2015 #8

As a we are not endorsing anybody (well except big money) nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #11

No no no no. byronius Jun 2015 #216

Good for you. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #12

Well said. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #103

Heh Puglover Jun 2015 #165

That seems like a weird way to choose a candidate. cyberswede Jun 2015 #14

I picked Bernie by closing my eyes and pointing at a chart of all the quality candidates running. nt peecoolyour Jun 2015 #15

Great idea! Pin the tail on the donk... um ...err ...candidate. L0oniX Jun 2015 #75

Well, he did say... -none Jun 2015 #206

" if I saw a tumult of anti-Bernie posts" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #16

All ya gotta do is check out the recs. It's all there Autumn Jun 2015 #26

LMAO! Do they think we can't see that??? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #30

no surprise there. there are a few "Bernie Supporters" like that here. nt m-lekktor Jun 2015 #33

Caught me! byronius Jun 2015 #219

Whatever, it's not a matter of being smart. When you rec a post people can view what you rec. Autumn Jun 2015 #226

"I didn't see the anti-Bernie posts that have apparently sent this place over the fucking edge" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #232

I WAS gonna vote for Hillary xfundy Jun 2015 #17

And what happens now? workinclasszero Jun 2015 #18

Attacked for attacking other? Say it ain't so! Fearless Jun 2015 #48

define "attacked" frylock Jun 2015 #51

Alerted on for not supporting workinclasszero Jun 2015 #54

o-kayyyyyyyyy......... frylock Jun 2015 #57

Correct. That is the way it is working out. murielm99 Jun 2015 #102

Sounds like you speak from experience? Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #169

'k n/t Aerows Jun 2015 #21

You think so huh? Do you have a problem with the "slime-spew" directed at Bernie Autumn Jun 2015 #22

So helpful Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #61

And here you are. Autumn Jun 2015 #62

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #63

I've already weighed in on any alerts I had an opinion on. Has your friend told you how Autumn Jun 2015 #68

Uhuh Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #70

Obviously you know. Autumn Jun 2015 #74

Obviously. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #83

Wow.. they sure do like to censor.. not for free speech so much that bunch. Doubt if the Cha Jun 2015 #256

Bad form? Autumn's a really good host... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #147

WTF? Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #150

That's right. Gossiping... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #159

Geeze Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #160

Yet here you are talking about the current hosting situation... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #161

Bottom line Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #170

You mean this one? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #115

No, in the host forum. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #118

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2015 #76

Jury Results oneshooter Jun 2015 #158

Who are you and what have you done with trumad? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #23

I haven't seen any. LWolf Jun 2015 #25

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Systematic Chaos Jun 2015 #27

... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #28

Just consider the sources. Bernie would never act like this, which makes him worthy of consideration freshwest Jun 2015 #29

Trash, garbage, or refuse HassleCat Jun 2015 #31

Actually, you might want to rethink what you just wrote.. joeybee12 Jun 2015 #34

If you want to criticize HassleCat Jun 2015 #39

Well said however the Repubs don't need to look here for BS they do snagglepuss Jun 2015 #105

I love how the haters say they're just "critiquing" joeybee12 Jun 2015 #32

Critiquing using right-wing propaganda against Hillary. LOL B Calm Jun 2015 #40

same here..... chillfactor Jun 2015 #35

That makes me cringe with embarrassment for you. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #37

And Hillary supporters nichomachus Jun 2015 #43

(Insert 3 dollar bill from Richard Nixon joke here) TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #45

Trash talking makes you vote for people? How many times did you vote for Bush? Eleventy-million? Fearless Jun 2015 #46

That's nice . . . . hatrack Jun 2015 #49

Here is the quandry. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #52

Thanks for this post. blue neen Jun 2015 #84

Well thought out, concise, polite... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #135

I answered you and forgot to ask the most important question. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #53

Really? byronius Jun 2015 #99

I don't think Hillary is a member of the Family. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #144

'Baseless invective', 'absolutist exclusionary language', 'uncivil discourse'. byronius Jun 2015 #191

"I don't want to see any Democratic candidate trashed, period" pnwmom Jun 2015 #55

It's good you give your vote for President as much weight as voting on American Idol. jeff47 Jun 2015 #56

The OP tried to make a point but it is useless upaloopa Jun 2015 #71

Yes, the OP took a break from rec'ing Clinton threads jeff47 Jun 2015 #96

Man, you got me. I'm a fucking troll. Gig's up. byronius Jun 2015 #128

When you love someone dearly, you don't abandon them because of a message on the Internet. jeff47 Jun 2015 #174

Who are you calling "fools"? darkangel218 Jun 2015 #153

We have so many great candidates.... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #58

Call the Wambulance immediatly! L0oniX Jun 2015 #59

You have anything with substance to say? upaloopa Jun 2015 #67

I like to use images as well but that gentleman seems to go overboard. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #69

Overboard? Like demanding an anonymous meeting on the Metro? U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #85

Really? cwydro Jun 2015 #60

Only thing I can figure is,,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #64

Bernie is a far better person than his fans seem to be Politicub Jun 2015 #65

It is not going to change it will only get upaloopa Jun 2015 #66

Those "progressives" could be bored Cavers just fuckin' with DU. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #142

That kind of behavior makes me dislike the people who behave like that. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #72

Some of his fans are doing him no favors at all!! nt MADem Jun 2015 #77

None of any of this would change my mind. cwydro Jun 2015 #79

Not sure why you 're 'just sayin' to me. MADem Jun 2015 #86

I apologize. cwydro Jun 2015 #90

No prob--tiny tech can be a pain in the ass some times! MADem Jun 2015 #92

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #100

Me too...and that Damn auto complete!!! MADem Jun 2015 #104

Really, I've never seen anything like it. byronius Jun 2015 #93

So you let other voters' feelings affect your vote? Wow that's rather shallow and ill-thinking. silvershadow Jun 2015 #80

I care about the Democratic Underground. byronius Jun 2015 #88

My mother would not vote for an ugly guy or a guy with a Southern accent MuseRider Jun 2015 #81

I'm just frustrated. byronius Jun 2015 #218

I sure understand that! MuseRider Jun 2015 #234

You'd actually base your vote on a few negative posts in a political forum? raindaddy Jun 2015 #82

No, not really. Just pointing out the basic psychology here. byronius Jun 2015 #221

Yet another "Bernie supporter" trash talking Bernie supporters. delrem Jun 2015 #87

Call me a fucking liar, go ahead. byronius Jun 2015 #89

OK delrem Jun 2015 #91

And I shall not return the undeserved insult. byronius Jun 2015 #94

That's all it takes, huh? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #95

I guess I'm thin-skinned. byronius Jun 2015 #106

Nice to see someone grew up and joined the real world. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #98

Quantum politics says otherwise Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #107

Thanks for that. byronius Jun 2015 #108

Here's my two cents. TM99 Jun 2015 #110

I haven't seen any anti-Bernie posts like that. Why would anyone say such things? byronius Jun 2015 #122

Then you are not paying attention. TM99 Jun 2015 #127

People at DU have called other people at DU "Libtards?" gollygee Jun 2015 #162

WOW, thanks, I will alert the media!!!!! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #112

WOW, thanks, you made my point!!!!!! Text Below. byronius Jun 2015 #123

Dramatic much? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #125

Nope, never. byronius Jun 2015 #137

So this is what I am learning from this thread. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #126

You are so awesome for saying that. byronius Jun 2015 #130

And someday, you might actually do that. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #175

Instead of subtly slandering me from the anonymity of an internet connection DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #177

Couldn't even manage to keep doing it for one post, huh? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #178

You slandered me... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #179

Yep, you couldn't do it for a single post. jeff47 Jun 2015 #181

This is great DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #183

LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #210

So you aren't an issues voter? LittleBlue Jun 2015 #129

You should read the post. byronius Jun 2015 #132

None of it matters to Bernie LittleBlue Jun 2015 #146

Nope, just want Bernie's supporters to abstain from absolute nuclear warfare. byronius Jun 2015 #190

I agree with you completely. I'm laughing that after a dozen years here more or less bettyellen Jun 2015 #246

"If Bernie himself was acting anything like this, I'd stop listening to a single thing he said." Cha Jun 2015 #131

There you go. byronius Jun 2015 #133

You don't know how to 840high Jun 2015 #138

Is that really a salient comment on this thread? byronius Jun 2015 #139

Feel better? 'nite 840high Jun 2015 #141

It annoys me, but "trash-talk" won't change my vote or who I support. Agschmid Jun 2015 #145

And who are you voting for? darkangel218 Jun 2015 #155

Bernie, and the whoever wins the GE. Agschmid Jun 2015 #173

After a quarter century of bullshit republican slander Cosmocat Jun 2015 #154

I'm right there with you. byronius Jun 2015 #192

I haven't seen anybody "trash-talk" Hillary magical thyme Jun 2015 #156

I guess you are now a Nickelback fan because we always trash them too. FSogol Jun 2015 #157

He is now eating at McDonald's and drinking Coors Light. Throd Jun 2015 #186

Your analogy is specious. Music isn't politics, and Nickelback isn't going to be running against byronius Jun 2015 #193

Spoken like a true Nickelback fan! Kudos! FSogol Jun 2015 #194

Fine, you're the winner, then. byronius Jun 2015 #202

Numerous posters here have used exact claims from the Gowdy witch hunt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #163

Whoppty doopty. morningfog Jun 2015 #167

Yes, lovely and sarcastic invective. byronius Jun 2015 #196

No, the entire premise is so fucking stupid. morningfog Jun 2015 #203

Your disbelief does not change the fact that civil discourse is more productive. byronius Jun 2015 #217

Maybe you'd prefer trash-talking Bernie TBF Jun 2015 #168

Nope, don't want any of that crap from either side. byronius Jun 2015 #197

That was my point ... TBF Jun 2015 #205

"Trash Thread" has become my dear friend. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #171

Give me a break davidpdx Jun 2015 #172

Perhaps a few paid trolls on either side are fanning the flames. byronius Jun 2015 #198

It's more than just a few people fanning the flames davidpdx Jun 2015 #254

Oh yeah.. It's all "Hillary Supporters"! Your bad! Cha Jun 2015 #258

Thank you for sharing this. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #176

what anti-Hillary vote? kpete Jun 2015 #180

I'm honored that you would respond on this thread, kpete. byronius Jun 2015 #199

i did not say it, but think it is well stated: kpete Jun 2015 #250

Ah, the Coalition. byronius Jun 2015 #252

I don't care. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #182

Okey dokey. byronius Jun 2015 #200

I am a fan of both and would cheerily vote for either in the general rock Jun 2015 #187

Well said. byronius Jun 2015 #201

It predates Bernie. Basic LA Jun 2015 #188

actully Robbins Jun 2015 #189

I did not say I was voting for Hillary. byronius Jun 2015 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #237

So? Trash talking Olive Garden on this board makes me more likely to breastfeed a smoking pit bull. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #243

Yes, funny. So funny. byronius Jun 2015 #244

Oh shoot... did I post that? What I meant to post was cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #247

You had already said that upthread, and I responded. byronius Jun 2015 #248

With so many people claiming their hair is on fire because their hero (or heroine) is disrespected cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #249

Your full-on McDonalds slime-spew is making me want to write in a smoking pit bull's name beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #245

Maybe when I was a newbie to the WWW, but nothing and nobody on this forum will influence me Rex Jun 2015 #251

Point taken. byronius Jun 2015 #253