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148. Other than a large crowd, what specific trouble do you prophecy?

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:33 PM

Jun 2015

Other than a large crowd (which I believe, is a rather good indicator of popularity and support in the world of politics), what specific trouble do you prophecy? And on what objective measure do you base those prophecies on...?

"This appears to be deliberately designed to create pandemonium..."
Most likely, because we see only what our biases allow us to, and discount or minimize any other rationalize conclusions. Though no doubt, you'll allege that's not applicable to you.

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For her June 16, I mean June 13, "Big Rally", Hillary Clinton is Asking for Trouble. [View all] NYC_SKP Jun 2015 OP

You'll live LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #1

LOL DURHAM D Jun 2015 #5

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #12

+1000 SecularMotion Jun 2015 #44

Perfect response. zappaman Jun 2015 #76

And if she charged admission or limited the # of tickets she'd get shit for that. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #2

Oh FFS. sufrommich Jun 2015 #3

Friendly Citizen! Freedom-Loving Citizen! Hillary Clinton is already finished! You have no future alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #13

Exactly. It would be funny if it wasn't so sufrommich Jun 2015 #15

LOL! DCBob Jun 2015 #18

That's funny. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #45

I prefer Lord Haw Haw but the idea is the same. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #111

Skip, seriously, dial it back a bit Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #4

I'm guessing this HassleCat Jun 2015 #6

Relax Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #7

I thought everyone hates her? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #8

Indeed.. I thought she was an uninspiring, lying, manipulative, old hag. DCBob Jun 2015 #20

nobody goes to her rallies, they're too crowded nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #39

LOL Yogi! DCBob Jun 2015 #55

But he recs this thread: Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #98

! stevenleser Jun 2015 #113

Camp Bernie also says she will be wearing her lovely crown misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #114

Know what this Bernie camper will be doing? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #178

I wonder if the Hillary website sells crowns dlwickham Jun 2015 #186

Me Too. Lol. What a cool idea. Thanks anti-Hillary peeps!! misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #189

It will be a blast! People can figure out how to get there on time. cyberswede Jun 2015 #9

Your self-editorial that doesn't reflect the article aside, Yep, it's going to be a big crowded event. onehandle Jun 2015 #10

ROFL!! OKNancy Jun 2015 #161

It's June 13th, and NYC can handle it. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #11

I read up on the Island, taking a tram would be fun and I think people will be smart. Autumn Jun 2015 #14

The campaign is attempting to equate the candidate with FDR. That's kind of disturbing. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #21

There's a lot about FDR to admire, I don't believe she's equating herself to FDR Autumn Jun 2015 #24

You do know I have attended a few campaign launches nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #40

she breathes the same air quickesst Jun 2015 #59

you lived on Roosevelt Island? CreekDog Jun 2015 #119

What's yer issue, CreekDog? NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #123

Would you prefer she channel Herbert Hoover? yellowcanine Jun 2015 #124

Face it. Everything about Hillary disturbs you pnwmom Jun 2015 #143

Oh, so her big event could be *too* big. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #16

I'm a fan of yours, Skip, but you need to chill the fuck out. You're talking about the person ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #17

Who, if she does win, we'll hear him complaining about for at least four years Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #100

Yep. You nailed it. Number23 Jun 2015 #200

I'm also a fan of yours, Skip, but I have to agree with ChisolmTrailDem's sentiments. lamp_shade Jun 2015 #146

You don't have to go if you don't want to. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #19

Oh, no fucking way I'm going. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #22

Isn't the location and having to take a Tram a bit limiting for average people? KoKo Jun 2015 #25

Roosevelt Island is accessable by subway, bus, tram, ferry, car and foot. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #37

Holding it on a Sunday is very helpful for NYC & Area Supporters KoKo Jun 2015 #57

It's a Saturday leftynyc Jun 2015 #75

I lived on the Island for a few months. One little tram and a bridge to Queens, no ferry. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #62

there is a new subway line now. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #68

I just now looked at a map and saw that station, very cool! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #86

They extended the 6th Avenue line to Queensboro Plaza in the 90's and then extended it hrmjustin Jun 2015 #89

...and the subway's been there since 1989. brooklynite Jun 2015 #92

There used to be trolleys that would stop on the Queensboro Bridge, w elevator down to the island NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #104

Hence, the multiple inaccuracies in your cloudy prophecy. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #102

Looking into my crystal ball now..... NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #112

People can also take the F train. MineralMan Jun 2015 #106

WoW DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #35

"It's likely to be a dangerous place to be just for the crowds." zappaman Jun 2015 #78

You're going to be at your beach place. pnwmom Jun 2015 #145

Maybe, maybe not. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #149

I'm glad you've had some significant success. pnwmom Jun 2015 #150

OK then! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #152

I think it's great that Bernie is speaking out and he has such strong supporters. pnwmom Jun 2015 #154

Let's build each other up instead of tearing each other down... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #23

You are right, heads doesn't have to explode, just go on th the next day. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #28

"Hillary is about to do something. Whatever it is, I hate it." Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #26

To be fair, I don't think making a huge mess is her intent here Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #27

Her campaign is off to a fine start and most dispassionate observers agree./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #30

Then they aren't observing very well. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #32

She addressed immigration and has staked out a more progressive immigration DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #47

None of those positions differ markedly from Sanders or O'Malley. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #50

All I know is that HRC has massive leads among the groups I cited DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #58

For now. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #60

If someone gave you a million dollars... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #61

There you go with that shit again. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #63

I am happy with where HRC is on the issues... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #67

So how is it that you think Hillary has your back? Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #70

Because the oligarchy will always be with us. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #74

That doesn't mean we have to vote for them! Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #79

I respect your idealism and passion. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #88

I hear that. (also, thanks.) Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #95

I am being literal when I say I believe politics is a blood sport. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #97

+ a million lunamagica Jun 2015 #81

Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #91

But those groups are a bit, exclusive, don't you think? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #94

I don't see the point of taking apart Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #99

I'm sorry, but bernie didn't address immigration reform in his speech when he anounced lunamagica Jun 2015 #80

Does she need to stake out a unique position? Arkana Jun 2015 #156

They don't differ markedly because they are all Democrats. Also: Robby Mook, gay, is her manager. Hekate Jun 2015 #181

That's an awful lot of subjective opinions posing as facts... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #103

8 days to come up with "I didn't want to carry 2 phones"!? Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #129

She is beating her Democratic rivals by fifty points... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #130

She has been running forever Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #132

HRC's favorability rating among Democrats is in the mid to high 80s. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #133

and as is the norm...she may even get a bit of a bump after this NY rally. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #166

Her campaign is off to an amazing start. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #41

It certainly is that. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #46

The most disturbing parts: only six debates, can't answer questions, and uses Super PACs as voice. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #144

Oh, No, here are the caps again. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #188

I wish I could be there for it! Rex Jun 2015 #29

Uhm... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #31

I think this is fairest way to do it. DCBob Jun 2015 #33

Obama held a free, public rally at Portland's Tom McCall Waterfront Park, 75,000 people came Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #36

I really hope you can make it through that day. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #38

Isn't that park logistically difficult to get to for a large crowd? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #42

You must think she is going to draw enormous support.... NCTraveler Jun 2015 #43

Personally I'm all for it if Hillary daredtowork Jun 2015 #48

its always been about her madokie Jun 2015 #49

Wow, someone is trying really hard to create a controversy. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #51

The location invites an unflattering comparison. Poor choice. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #52

I could see her getting sued gopiscrap Jun 2015 #53

Your op is why so many of us love her. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #54

Jury results. zappaman Jun 2015 #159

Thanks, zappa Cha Jun 2015 #193

Tee hee. I bet I can guess which juror you were! Number23 Jun 2015 #201

but we brag about bernie having people stand in the hallway... lame54 Jun 2015 #56

Pandemonium? jberryhill Jun 2015 #64

That were on the Washington Mall, LiberalElite Jun 2015 #135

So cool treestar Jun 2015 #192

I'm a little surprised by the choice LiberalElite Jun 2015 #65

How many locations have five ways of getting there? (tram, subway, bus, car, foot) yellowcanine Jun 2015 #71

No I am not grasping at straws at all - LiberalElite Jun 2015 #85

Battery Park, Central Park, even Washington Square Park would have cleaner egress. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #90

That's it. All about the visual LiberalElite Jun 2015 #105

June 13 is a Saturday. I think your fears are misplaced. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #107

Melodrama's your word. LiberalElite Jun 2015 #110

"It's still a relatively small place with a potentially big crowd coming." Yep, and the disclaimer: yellowcanine Jun 2015 #117

Are you coming? Even if I were a fan of hers I would skip it. See more "melodrama" below: LiberalElite Jun 2015 #121

Thank you, I'll add that to the OP. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #134

No I am not a particular fan. Some of us are undecided believe it or not. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #190

June 13th. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #66

At a minimum look at what the Obama campaign did. peace13 Jun 2015 #69

Good point. demmiblue Jun 2015 #72

I think they want it more open than that. DCBob Jun 2015 #126

Then don't have tickets at all. peace13 Jun 2015 #147

What you say makes total sense..but.. DCBob Jun 2015 #163

I hope it works out! N/t peace13 Jun 2015 #191

Had to stop by again. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #73

OH FFS leftynyc Jun 2015 #77

Psssst....maybe by posting the wrong date, people will miss the real event lunamagica Jun 2015 #82

Oh Damn It! I've been found out! Rats! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #83

LMFAO L0oniX Jun 2015 #173

No - I think it was just leftynyc Jun 2015 #116

Why break a trend? revmclaren Jun 2015 #182

Your headline is wrong - date is the 13th... brooklynite Jun 2015 #84

I can't believe tickets is what you're really worried about... brooklynite Jun 2015 #87

You should edit your OP cwydro Jun 2015 #93

You know that it's on June 13th now ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #96

I was wondering too. cwydro Jun 2015 #109

Jury results JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #101

Nobody will go, it'll be too crowded CreekDog Jun 2015 #108

lol nt greyl Jun 2015 #115

I read not long ago that Roosevelt Island used to be an asylum for the criminally insane. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #118

NYC SKP says he lived there CreekDog Jun 2015 #120

real funny - numerous apartment high rises LiberalElite Jun 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #127

And you don't think of her at all I see nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #136

I an not a psychiatrist but I would assume he or she would tell you it's better to think about... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #141

No, you couldn'd pay me to live in LA or San Diego. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #138

lol Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #125

The ruins of the Smallpox Hospital were still standing when during my few months living there. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #140

Penitentiary Hospital, Smallpox Hospital, reminiscent of Alcatraz and Molokai. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #131

"This appears to be deliberately designed to create pandemonium and disorder." randome Jun 2015 #128

Thats not convenient to my summmer place in The Hamptons. LexVegas Jun 2015 #137

"what a mess" geek tragedy Jun 2015 #139

What is your problem with the date? Is the calendar tricky for you? n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #142

Other than a large crowd, what specific trouble do you prophecy? LanternWaste Jun 2015 #148

I think the "tickets do not guarantee admission" part that could become a problem. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #151

buhahahahaha! OMG you Bernie fans are really scared aren't you? workinclasszero Jun 2015 #153

We are delighted that you like this post! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #157

You bet! Keep em coming! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #158

It looks like only one person in this thread agrees with the OP: the one who posted it. arcane1 Jun 2015 #162

It's going to be a brilliant day in NYC for Hillary's Official Launch.. Cha Jun 2015 #194

Great picture workinclasszero Jun 2015 #195

I just posted it in Hillary's Group.. Justin is in NY. I was thinking maybe he might? Cha Jun 2015 #197

I know right? workinclasszero Jun 2015 #198

Not sure why you're kicking up such a fuss about this. Arkana Jun 2015 #155

Because... workinclasszero Jun 2015 #160

I guess you never went to an Obama event, or any major campaign event for that matter BainsBane Jun 2015 #164

Not many events, no. Just Robert Kennedy and Jerry Brown. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #167

And you never read any of the emails about the Obama events either? BainsBane Jun 2015 #168

Not to mention- Trey Anastasio on lead guitar? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #165

Strange things that some people choose to get upset about 4now Jun 2015 #169

... William769 Jun 2015 #170

I LOVE IT! *nyc checks his phone and messages* NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #171

Beautiful. lamp_shade Jun 2015 #175

Nice workinclasszero Jun 2015 #184

Yea ....I hear there's even a few rich people living on that island. L0oniX Jun 2015 #172

I was accused, upthread, of living or not really living on that island! Imagine the indignity! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #174

No. To Hillary's enormous fan base, its about Hillary 2016. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #176

Take a deep breath, NYC_SKIP Scootaloo Jun 2015 #177

I pointed out yesterday it was a crazy ass venue if you wanted a crowd Warpy Jun 2015 #179

Ugh, that's it. I'm logging out. You can have the echo chamber. Metric System Jun 2015 #180

I just read that her "women only" rally 840high Jun 2015 #183

maybe you should volunteer your services dlwickham Jun 2015 #185

Roosevelt Island also known as "Island of the Undesirables." nichomachus Jun 2015 #187

+1 AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #199

Mark me down for "this argument is silly", too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #196

It's 2015, almost everyone has a smartphone. joshcryer Jun 2015 #202